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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:17 AM Original message |
Occupy Los Angeles' Demands and Objectives Committee releases 8 preliminary demands. List below: |
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. Don't Understand 7 - Isnt that a Tea Party Talking Point? |
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abelenkpe
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Many liberals want to end the fed too |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Many of the people calling for an end to the Fed offer no explanation |
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Xithras
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. JFK wanted to abolish the Fed. |
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NorthCarolina
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. EO11110 bought Kennedy an eternal flame. nt |
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Matariki
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
43. Thank you for that explanation. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
127. Thank you for that detailed explanation. This is why I said the |
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cui bono
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. There are issues the 99% and the real Tea Partiers, not the racist hangers on, agree on. |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
88. I totally disagree. The teaparty is responsible for supporting Bush tax cuts, ending social program |
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cui bono
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. And Obama is responsible for extending the Bush tax cuts. |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. yes. beware those who want a coalition w teaparty / ron paulists nt |
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abelenkpe
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. Totally agree. |
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Cant trust em
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Great! I'm glad that they're starting to come up with a platform for legislative action. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I agree. Just so folks have a little better sense of next steps, the |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Dont' you get that this list will make them look ridiculous? End the FED Nice fringey Ron Paul goal |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. End the fed is as American as apple pie |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. This is not a goal of the people who are angry about economic injustic - this is fringe |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Well then I guess we should not reform the system. |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. In Occupy Los Angeles, there are many Ron Paul supporters |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. True, but the saving grace of OLA is that it uses 100% consensus. |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. I, for one, am glad for that as these Ron Paulers make me cringe |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Anyone asking you for donations has not been authorized by the |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. When I was there on Saturday, a young guy came to me with a bucket for money |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Locals have set an actual donation page |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. I'm glad you did not contribute any $$ to this non-authorized (and |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. OK, this is a set of 'preliminary demands' not a finalized set by |
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KansDem
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. I would have suspected a reference to ending the current unfair tax rates. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Agreed. I wish to reiterate that this is a list of 'preliminary' demands and |
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snooper2
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. Los Angeles is the most populous city in California |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Thanks for the tourism bullet points. Do you have any ideas |
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RZM
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Thu Nov-03-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
119. Randy Newman has also declared his love for it in song n/t |
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rjj621
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. Here in Va |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
49. Again, wish to stress that this is a list of 'perliminary' demands. None |
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rjj621
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
106. Much of the Patriot Act was a knee jerk reaction and seriously |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. Thanks for your observations. I will try to make sure they are shared |
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county worker
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. I don't see much that will solve the problems caused by this economy. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
132. I have gradually acquired confidence in the consensus model |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
14. Wow. Not well done. Shows that the Ron Paul gang is involved and it's fringey |
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. It's not THE POINT of this movement! They need to focus on jobs and economic injustice!! nt |
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. To bad those who were are so out to lunch nt |
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redqueen
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. +1 |
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RegieRocker
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. -1 |
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TBF
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
16. If there is a moratorium on all foreclosures why would you need #5? |
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slackmaster
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. There can never be a moratorium on all foreclosures |
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TBF
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. How do you feel about worldwide socialism as a "realistic goal" - |
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slackmaster
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Most countries in the world have some degree of socialism |
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TBF
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
93. A moratorium is a legal delay - not an invalidation. nt |
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U4ikLefty
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
133. Don't bother parsing...he's too busy shilling. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. I agree there is some slippage between the demands on this list. It is, |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. It's an unrealistic MESS. That will not contribute to broadening the movement, + has no focus nt |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. A specific measure calling for the LA Sherriff's to discontinue |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. It's unlikely to happen. As for diverting $ you can see where we are in congress |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. I think your sentiments can be rightly charactrerized right now as |
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slackmaster
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. I strongly oppose #5! |
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AntiFascist
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
21. This thread seems to be getting unrec'd.... |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. The OP is not a fail, but the list is a fail and a bad omen for the movement, imo |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I see social and Econ justice there |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Ron Paul is a right wing racist demagog. Ending the Fed is not going to happen |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. We know things are exactly as they ever was |
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AntiFascist
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. So, anyone who opposes the Fed is automatically a Ron Paul supporter? |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. The Fed is not going to be ended. This is fairy dust stuff and fringe nt |
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Xithras
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. It's only "fringe" because you let them define it as such. |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I think 1% of the US population favors ending the Fed. 90% don't know anything about it nt |
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
143. You're out of touch. |
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. Whew! Glad I'm not a fail :) I actually think the list is proof that |
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rjj621
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Why would #1 cause unrec? |
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AntiFascist
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. The answer to your question should be obvious... |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
83. Hell, I thought I was providing a public service in publishing the |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
27. Nothing will start until eight happens. |
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Zorra
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
38. Looks to me like a lot of tagalongs who don't understand |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Hunh? This list has nothing - ZERO - to do with the General |
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Zorra
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
103. Good, I'm really glad! My mistake, Thanks. |
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cui bono
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. I wish I could be enthusiastic about this list since I'm coming home to L.A. soon... |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I agree. I wanted to be a part of it but not if they continue with those demands |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Do you live in a city with an Occupy encampment? I ask, b/c I think |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Real Democracy is not a grouping of fringe interest organizations nt |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. "...fringe..." |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. One thing to realize |
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
134. Answer the question. Do you live in a city with an Occupy encampment? |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. I've said this many times already. This is a 'preliminary list' of |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. It sounds like OccupyLA has too many special interest political groups |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Good bye then |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Sorry. Poor response from you. I'm not "scared" just critical, who can't handle it? nt |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I know who can't |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I'm unhappy with LA |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Alas they are part of the 99% |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Ron Paul represents the 1% - Rand Paul is Mr. Teaparty |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. But the supporters are like family of mine |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. A serious question for you: would you deny the Ron Paul |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Yes I would deny the Ron Paul supporters a voice. Ron Paul is a racist demagog |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. But Ron Paul's supporters (for the most part) are part of the |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Be my guest making nice with the teaparty while you're at it nt |
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flamingdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. they are political manipulator's - do you want to repeat mistakes of the left? |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. I'm sorry to say that, despite your screen name, you are profoundly |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. If you don't see "economic justice" in most of those demands -- |
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. I will be down there for sure! I'm working in NYC right now and have |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
116. I do apologize for the 'FFS' - think I was reacting to your use of |
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Thu Nov-03-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. No problem, thanks for the post. I apologize if my criticism got you down. |
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
60. Great list. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
96. A DUer upthread said there were portions of the Patriot Act he |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #96 |
105. FISA except been abused. |
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
72. Reaction |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
97. I agree that #5 is the most specific and therefore the easiest to |
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. I'm not "advocating" anything. I'm pointing out that the "poverty draft" EXISTS, and |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. Got it. I think I misconstrued your original post a bit. Definitely |
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
77. Disagree on # 4 |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. Yeah, #4 makes me a little uneasy too. Again, this is a preliminary |
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xiamiam
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Sun Nov-06-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
150. people can walk away..but they want to stay...and no one is helping them do that |
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
90. It's a start |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. I share your opinion about #7 and will hard block if I have to, in order |
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Thu Nov-03-11 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
92. good move |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Yes. I published the OP here today to give people something to |
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Fire Walk With Me
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
99. This is the first time I've heard of the National Security Act and I don't really undestand |
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
104. Repeal the fed? |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Preliminary list. Think of this as bill |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Then git yer ass down to an Occupy -- |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. I concur and do so the extent that I am willing to hard block any |
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
111. I'm glad #1 is #1. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. That makes two of us! - n/t |
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GreenArrow
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
114. Ending the Drug war |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. You know, now that you mention it, I honestly do not know. I am |
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GreenArrow
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Thu Nov-03-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #121 |
126. My pleasure! n/t |
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
115. Get Rid of #5 |
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Luminous Animal
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Thu Nov-03-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
117. This list is naive in the extreme. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu Nov-03-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. I find naivete is part of the Occupy Movement's strength. It starts |
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Luminous Animal
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #122 |
135. You may not be appealing to anyone but, in order for demands to addressed, there must be |
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coalition_unwilling
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. I take your point for sure (that demands should come out of a shared |
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Luminous Animal
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I am aware of that list and I think it is great and a wonderful jumping point for |
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coalition_unwilling
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #139 |
140. I'm going to try to put in an appearance at D&O this coming |
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Luminous Animal
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Thank you for the discussion. I really appreciate what you do here on DU and your |
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Thu Nov-03-11 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
118. You asked... |
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Thu Nov-03-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Oy vey. Did you bother to read the responses that came before |
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Thu Nov-03-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. Why? |
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. I give up. Welcome to my Ignore list - n/t |
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Sun Nov-06-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #118 |
151. dont take any of your assumptions to the bank..we are in a new time |
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We are Devo
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Thu Nov-03-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
124. Public financing of elections.. |
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Thu Nov-03-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. I'll make sure it is passed along. Think it may be subsumed somewhat |
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Thu Nov-03-11 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
128. OK here is MY List Drew Richards List of OWS Demands. |
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. Drew, this is a wonderful list. Are you close to any particular |
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #131 |
138. I am close to the Occupy Washington group but |
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Thu Nov-03-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
136. Take note of the people crapping on the moment. They are part of the problem. |
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Fri Nov-04-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #136 |
146. this is how it starts, isn't it? Where do you draw the line for supporters? |
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
142. I'm sorry, but the Occupy Movement should focus on the corporate - political corruption |
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Fri Nov-04-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Great list. Please post separately to get feedback. |
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Fri Nov-04-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Wonderful list and welcome to DU! Are you anywhere near a |
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Sun Nov-06-11 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
147. THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Sun Nov-06-11 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
148. NOT APPROVED |
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Sun Nov-06-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
149. i like the list..great place to start..nt |
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