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kpete
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:37 PM Original message |
Naming Names: 60 House DEMOCRATS Embrace Austerity, Sign-Off on Medicare Cuts, Defunding Government |
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me b zola
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. There is one name on that list that truly shocks me |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I need to see the language of the letter. That can explain more, maybe. |
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Surprises me, too. I also would like to see the language of the letter. |
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in_cog_ni_to
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. I was just getting ready to post the same thing! |
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Snotcicles
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Thu Nov-03-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Me too on that one. nt |
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BlueCaliDem
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
83. I was surprised to see John Garamendi of California! He's a progressive |
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Sat Nov-05-11 01:42 AM Response to Reply #83 |
122. I am surprised to see Garamendi's name on this list as well. |
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BlueCaliDem
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Sat Nov-05-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. I don't know, but I'm wary. eom |
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GreenPartyVoter
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. And Chellie Pingree! |
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Beavker
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
112. +1 |
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WinkyDink
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Fri Nov-04-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
119. Allyson Schwartz, for me. |
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Scuba
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is outrageous. These are not "real" Democrats. I thought... |
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TheWraith
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. Unrec for bullshit and fearmongering. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. New revenue is a canard. It's closing absurd billionaire tax loopholes that shouldn't exist |
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TheWraith
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. "Closing loopholes" IS new revenue. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Nope. Sorry. Closing loopholes that never should have existed doesn't |
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TheWraith
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Strawman argument. No one said anything about "trading" anything. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. What do you think they are going to agree on? Tax loopholes closed w/o cuts? |
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Thu Nov-03-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. Thewraith ususaly posts some good comments, I think you missed on |
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truedelphi
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
106. Curious and curiouser - I find myself agreeing with you |
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jtown1123
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Why not read the original letter before you decide? It clearly states that entitlements are on the |
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truedelphi
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Fri Nov-04-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Yes the letter states that is what the Catfood Commission is doing. |
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JoePhilly
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. +1 ... No details, nothing specific = Catfood Commission #2 |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I guess Democrats pursuing austerity is not outrage worthy to you? n/t |
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TheWraith
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. "Democrats pursuing austerity" is a flat out lie. Read the Post article. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. We'll see what happens. Just because new revenue happens doesn't mean we can cheer |
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KamaAina
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. You're right. They're not pursuing austerity. They're merely acquiescing to it. |
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okieinpain
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Fri Nov-04-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
67. oh yes if there are cuts thousands will die in the streets. n/t. |
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KamaAina
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Fri Nov-04-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Maybe not in the streets, but in nursing homes |
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saras
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Sat Nov-05-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #77 |
120. Nursing homes kill. Depression kills. |
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pmorlan1
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Keep Reading the Article |
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truedelphi
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
107. Ah that is the truth of the matter. The OP is skewing the |
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JoePhilly
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Yes, I'm terrified. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I respect your opinion but I have been following this far too long. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Also, look at the "experts" they invited |
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sad sally
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Thu Nov-03-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Sorry, no more cuts to defense budgets - "irreversible" damage (to hell with America's |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Fri Nov-04-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
72. US global influence is in desperate need of some jeapordy. |
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stevenleser
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
99. I'm wondering along the same lines. Nothing came of the "Catfood Commission" hysteria the first time |
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jtown1123
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. Wait and see is always a good approach...not. Why not speak up now? |
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stevenleser
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Waiting until you have facts before you act actually is a pretty good approach. nt |
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Jakes Progress
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
102. Cutting benefits to the elderly and ill, doesn't outrage you? |
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stevenleser
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Are you sure that is in fact what is happening? I see no details yet. nt |
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Jakes Progress
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. Ah. The New Democrat. |
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Jakes Progress
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
101. Still confused about left wing and right wing, I see. |
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fascisthunter
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
116. Rec for telling the truth |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. What the fuck? Peter DeFazio? He is one of the biggest advocates out there. Disappointing. n/t |
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JDPriestly
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. Give him a call. Give the person who answers the phone an earful. |
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dtexdem
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. 60 Dems who should never be supported. |
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BrendaBrick
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
84. Yep. |
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Huey P. Long
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. OccupyWASHINGTON DC, eom. |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. We are, but there aren't enough people in DC. It's really a shame. |
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tcaudilllg
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Fri Nov-04-11 01:20 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. People are scared. |
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queenjane
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. What's David Price (NC) doing on there??? n/t |
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OneGrassRoot
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. I know!!! He usually votes progressive. WTF??? n/t |
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stevenleser
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
97. A lot of good folks on there. Castor, Maloney, DeFazio. Again, I wonder if that means we dont |
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mmonk
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Thu Nov-03-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
57. Yep. He has always voted progressive. Sucks. |
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Mimosa
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
10. Thanks for the info and updates, KPete |
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dionysus
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. there goes DeFazio's support to run for pres... |
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Bettie
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
13. My rep is on this list |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
14. Here's the text of the letter: |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. delete |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Why should I delete this? n/t |
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Robb
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. "...And revenues." You forgot to highlight "...and revenues." |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. until I see what revenues they are talking about, I'm not going to highlight it |
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Robb
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. You clearly know more about it than I do, so I'll defer to you. (nt) |
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jtown1123
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Fri Nov-04-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
80. I appreciate that! n/t |
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JDPriestly
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. OSW is nothing compared to what cuts to Social Security and Medicare |
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
64. Which is why many Democrats will support this as well. |
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KamaAina
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Thu Nov-03-11 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. Many of these aren't (or didn't use to be) DINOs |
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TheWraith
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It means that this OP is based on a flat-out lie. nt |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Why are you defending Democrats pushing for $4 trillion in deficit reduction? You really think this |
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TheWraith
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. I believe actual FACTS are a good thing. |
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a2liberal
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Fri Nov-04-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Too bad you don't seem to actually care about the facts |
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geardaddy
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm not surprised to see Collin Peterson on that list. |
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DonCoquixote
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
26. Kastor |
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stevenleser
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
82. She is. Something is wrong with the analysis if she, Maloney and DeFazio all support this. |
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Fri Nov-04-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. Maybe they know that we really do have a problem and need to look at everything. |
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stevenleser
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. I have to believe at this point that the outrage is a kneejerk reaction to something we dont yet |
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Hoyt
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. No joke. I'm tired of freakin out every few days when some BS leaks out or is misinterpreted. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
28. Are they shareholders in cat food companies? |
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pmorlan1
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Thu Nov-03-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. Cuts to Medicare on the Table |
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jtown1123
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Of course they are. Baucus' first plan included Medicare cuts and Chained CPI. n/t |
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Thu Nov-03-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
41. This is a moral issue. |
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JDPriestly
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
44. Good news. Xavier Becerra, my representative is not on the list. |
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Sat Nov-05-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
121. He's my rep, too |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. "In other news, we take you now to Northern CA, where a million-dollar-per-hour DEA operation |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Nov-03-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
49. "EVERYTHING* is on the table!" |
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Poll_Blind
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Thu Nov-03-11 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
52. I just got off the phone with DeFazio's office and they were as surprised as I was. |
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Thu Nov-03-11 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
53. The Dems are well on their way of selling us out - did anyone doubt? |
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mmonk
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Thu Nov-03-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
56. Damn. Nobody to vote for in the House in 2012 either. |
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tcaudilllg
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Fri Nov-04-11 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
58. What is our plan for sending these guys back to their law offices? |
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Bluenorthwest
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
60. The Kos post is far over the top |
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piratefish08
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
61. fuck... "no True Scotsmen" applies as fully to our Dems as it does to Christianity...... |
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madokie
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
62. I should have known that boy boren of Oklahoma would be one of them |
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Bluenorthwest
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
63. Just so you all know, anyone who uses the term 'naming names' |
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tcaudilllg
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Fri Nov-04-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. You are no true Democrat. |
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Bluenorthwest
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Fri Nov-04-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Do you know the history of that phrase? Obviously not. |
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tcaudilllg
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Fri Nov-04-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. It's not what you use, but what you use it for. |
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Bluenorthwest
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. I do not agree. That phrase has a nasty history, which clearly |
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a2liberal
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Fri Nov-04-11 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
65. Ok, who's surprised? Raise your hands... |
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Le Taz Hot
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Fri Nov-04-11 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
68. Jim Costa. |
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nicky187
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Fri Nov-04-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
69. Extremely bad decision. |
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L0oniX
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Fri Nov-04-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
71. Dem or repuke ...what's the dif ...they are all huge asscarrots ...only a few are for the people. |
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opihimoimoi
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Fri Nov-04-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. BIG DIFF...The GOPers are selfish assholes who vote their party over the Nation |
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tcaudilllg
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Fri Nov-04-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Hmm... choice between selfish asses and non-selfish people who make excuses for not stopping them |
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opihimoimoi
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Fri Nov-04-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. The GOPers have fucked this Nation big time and we wanna |
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tcaudilllg
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Fri Nov-04-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. Reread my post, please. |
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opihimoimoi
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. I jus was "sayin".... i noes what ya said...peace ;o) |
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L0oniX
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #78 |
96. 60 Dems in favor of cutting Medicare. |
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L0oniX
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
95. "Obama and Dems vote for the Masses and the improvished" Oh really? 60 Dems in favor of cutting |
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blindpig
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
100. And who put Social Security on the table? |
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obietiger
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Fri Nov-04-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
75. No House Democrats from Ohio... |
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Fri Nov-04-11 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
79. trying to solve our problem of weak demand by cutting demand. |
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BrendaBrick
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Fri Nov-04-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
87. Is it treason time yet? |
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SemperEadem
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Fri Nov-04-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
89. thank god my representative is not on that list. |
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blindpig
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Fri Nov-04-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
90. Some 'party of the people'..... |
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tcaudilllg
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Fri Nov-04-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. That's 1/3 of all Dems in the House. |
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marmar
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Fri Nov-04-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
91. Has Heath Shuler EVER voted the right (that would be left) way? |
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Jakes Progress
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
104. K&R Except |
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Myrina
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
108. Kick ... as proof that the problem exists on both sides of the aisle. |
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FLAprogressive
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
111. Somehow I doubt that DeFazio, Pingree, and Welch actually support Medicare cuts. The rest are |
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Dont call me Shirley
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Fri Nov-04-11 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
114. Very disappointed to see REVEREND Emmanuel Cleaver's name on that list. |
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Odin2005
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Fri Nov-04-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
118. Collin Fucking Peterson being useless again, I see. |
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burrowowl
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Sat Nov-05-11 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
123. Fucktards! |
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Major Hogwash
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Sat Nov-05-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
125. How do those Representatives define "Democrat"?? |
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ooglymoogly
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Sun Nov-06-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
126. Time to work hard to say goodbye to these turncoat |
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