Scott Walker in Chicago says Rahm is echoing what he is doing in Wisconsin.

[madfloridian]

Out of the mouth of a right wing extremist governor...actually comes the truth.

What makes it really sad is that he is mostly correct.

Gov. Walker got one thing right in Chicago speech -- "Rahm is echoing me..."

Wisconsin's union-busting governor tried to slip quietly into Chicago yesterday, to talk with supporters at the stodgy, tie-only Union League Club. So protesters donned business attire and sneaked inside and greeted Walker with chants of, "Union busting -- it's disgusting!" before they were finally escorted out by security.

According to Stand Up! Chicago, the 70 protesters who attended the breakfast comprised almost half the total number of attendees. Outside hundreds more marched in protest of Walker's appearance.

There's more:

In the end, Gov. Walker may have gotten one thing right. He came out and said what we in Chicago have been thinking for months:

“I found it amusing to be referenced in the same vein as Rahm Emanuel, the mayor, but, really, some of the reforms he’s trying to do here echo the things we try to do in the state of Wisconsin and I give him credit for that despite the fact I’m a Republican and he’s a Democrat." -- Sun-Times

Considering Rahm's recent statements about teachers' unions cheating students out of an education, and considering the fact that the teachers union is filing a 2nd complaint with the labor board...I say Scott Walker's words are right.

More from the Chicago Sun Times on the protestors' words and Walker's response. Pay attention to the words about the 300 who were arrested in Chicago.

Protesters disrupt Chicago speech by Gov. Scott Walker

But while Walker said his strict tonic of cuts has helped catapult Wisconsin from No. 41 to No. 24 on national rankings of business-friendly states, the Stand Up, Chicago! protesters said Walker’s policies are harming Wisconsin residents.

Walker “has wreaked havoc on the lives of working families,” the protesters shouted in unison about five minutes into Walker’s speech. “It’s ironic that we give Gov. Walker free rein to say what he wants while the mayor has ordered the arrest of over 300 people in Occupy Chicago, who have simply tried to express the rights of freedom and assembly.”

Then after being welcomed so warmly by so many when he gave his speech, he got some insults toward the city in the Sun Times interview.

During the expected recall effort, Walker said he would contrast with what he called Wisconsin’s strong economy as a result of cutting spending with Illinois’ cash-strapped economy where tax hikes dwarfed spending cuts.

“With all due respect to people of Illinois, I’m going to use Illinois as a good example (of bad economics),” Walker said.

Rahm Emanuel once said they had to be sure that the "liberals" in the party did not have too much influence.

Looks like his wing of the party succeeded in that wish. I would love to hear him respond to Walker's claim that he is echoing what is going on in Wisconsin.

[Me.]

1. Well If It Looks Loke A Duck...

[madfloridian]

15. Yep..

and it does look like one.

:-(

[Jack Rabbit]

42. An elephant looks like a duck?

Gee, I didn't know that.

[frazzled]

2. Chicago Teacher's Union and CPS have reached agreement on longer school day

So no, it looks like Mayor Emanuel is not like Scott Walker, much as you'd like to telescope the two. Details coming:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/04/longer-school-day-deal-li_n_1076173.html?ref=chicago

It's kind of sad you have to resort to quoting Scott Walker, as if he's some kind of reliable source and not a trouble-maker.

[madfloridian]

5. Oh, wait....could it be because the labor board said what Rahm did was illegal.

http://preaprez.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/breaking-illinois-ed-labor-relations-board-rules-rahm-acted-illegally-on-longer-school-day/

I betcha that's why they are getting together.

[frazzled]

8. Boy, I don't know who Fred Klonsky is, but ...

He doesn't even get facts straight. When the Labor Relations Board made their ruling they made a special, specific announcement that it did NOT in any way affect the schools that had already instituted longer days. So Fred gets a D- on his report.

Sure the conflict precipitated a negotiation, with Lisa Madigan apparently in the middle. But that means that Karen Lewis must also have made some big concessions. In the end, that's how things get done. Still awaiting details.

[madfloridian]

9. Guess what? You are misrepresenting what was said.

The schools that already did it are stuck with their caving in to what was essentially bribery.

The labor board said what he had done was illegal...and you don't even care?

Actually they are only teachers after all, and our party's leaders have zero respect for any of us anyway.

Of course the union had to make concessions, probably a lot of them. But they showed some spirit and won a round.

Rahm has contempt for public school teachers.

[madfloridian]

10. Fred quoted the Sun Times. Here's who he is.

http://preaprez.wordpress.com/about/

Here's the Sun Times article.

http://www.suntimes.com/8320672-417/state-labor-board-advances-union-effort-to-halt-longer-school-day.html

"The longer school day started at more than a dozen Chicago Public Schools should be halted, the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Board ruled Thursday, essentially siding with the Chicago Teachers Union in its bitter dispute with district officials.

The move is a blow to Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s push to implement a longer day this year.

“This is a victory for labor,” said Karen Lewis, president of the union, which has accused CPS of violating the collective bargaining process by allowing teachers at 13 elementaries to cast waiver votes extending their school days by 90 minutes — in exchange for lump sum payments of $1,250.

CPS has maintained it was legal for schools to adopt the longer school day individually. But the labor board — after a hearing where both sides presented their case — disagreed, voting 5-0 to ask a court to block CPS from its quest this year, and perhaps reverse the decision of the 13 schools. Nine of those 13 have already implemented the longer day, and will continue, until a court ruling.

Despite the labor board’s decision, however, Emanuel said he was not about to give up on the signature item on his education agenda."

[frazzled]

20. He should read the Tribune

The nine elementary schools that already have extended their days by 90 minutes will be unaffected by whatever the court chooses to do, the board said in a statement clarifying the ruling.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-20/news/chi-labor-board-sides-with-chicago-teachers-union-in-dispute-over-longer-school-day-20111020_1_president-karen-lewis-labor-board-cps

[madfloridian]

22. Fred didn't say they would be affected. You are reading the quote wrong.

You are arguing something I am not disputing, nor is he.

[frazzled]

25. You're reading it wrong

He says: "The longer school day started at more than a dozen Chicago Public Schools should be halted, the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Board ruled Thursday,"

The ELRB absolutely did not rule that (they have no power to do so anyway; it's only a request to the court). In fact, the ELRB specifically stated that the longer school day started at the dozen CPB schools would not in any way be affected. They only wanted to prevent further schools signing on.

[madfloridian]

27. No, I am not. You are stuck on one point that is not important over all.

Here is more today about it.

http://preaprez.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/board-and-mayor-agree-to-stop-breaking-the-law/

"In an agreement between the Chicago Teachers Union and the Chicago Board which is a wholly owned subsidiary of the 5th floor of City Hall, Rahm Emanuel agreed to stop breaking the law and live by the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Nothing in the agreement stops the CTU from pursuing their complaint with the Illinois Education Labor Relations Board. The Board promises to halt their school by school attack on the CBA."

Then there is a complete letter from Karen Lewis. Here is the part you keep referring to:

"The agreement does not circumvent the pending Unfair Labor Practices hearing before the Illinois Education Labor Relations Board (IELRB) on the merits of the complaint, which is scheduled for December 14 in Chicago. It also does not force the 13 schools who have already waived school day length provisions of the contract to revert back to their old schedules.That would only happen if the IELRB issues a ruling following the hearing or if the Union and Board reach a further settlement."

So the schools that got money to ignore their union still get to profit from their sell-out.

Don't worry, Rahm has the power and money behind him....this is only a temp pause before he starts in again on the unions and teachers he despises. He even has Arne and the president on his side.

[frazzled]

28. And you're switching links

Your original link (check it out) said nothing of the sort.

[madfloridian]

29. You are totally hung up on the fact that the schools get to keep the money

that Rahm gave them to betray their union for profit.

You are so totally not seeing that the union fought back and won a small victory for a change.

You are so ignoring the fact that the mayor of Chicago holds teachers in such contempt that he bribed them to go against collective bargaining.

And our Democrats overall feel the same way you do. Thus they are destroying public education quickly and efficiently.

I am very angry, I have presented my case well, and I am saying good by to you...you have no respect for teachers. I was one for over 30 years and I much resent our party's attacks on them. I also resent those who defend those attacks.

[frazzled]

35. Wow, you are so into one end of it: they get to keep LONGER DAYS

First of all, I don't think the union won a damn thing in the final negotiation. Which is now completely over. CTU agreed to "end legal efforts to fight longer days for this year, and CPS will stop offering financial incentives to schools and teachers willing to extend their days. The 13 schools that voted to add the extra 90 minutes will keep their new schedules."

Notice it said "schedules," not money (which, of course, is acknowledged by all parties is needed to implement the longer schedules).

So who won? Nobody. (Except the kids at 13 schools, who get instructional time that approaches the national average now.)

CPS (Brizzard and Emanuel) got their pilot program so they can tout whatever benefits they think the longer schedule provided this school year. Next year, by state law, the schools will have to add the 90 minutes. So the fact that the union agreed not to fight further this year seems more like, "okay, let's end this." Only Lisa Madigan knows the true story.

You don't live here (I do). You don't seem to know the details of this story. And you are DEAD FREAKING WRONG that I disrespect teachers. You want to know the truth, and what is making me angry? I think you have no respect for kids and education. I am passionate about that and spent many many years freely volunteering my time in inner city public schools helping disadvantaged kids and non-English speaking kids.

Please understand that this story is OVER. There will be no action against the city or CPS. There will be more instructional time for the deprived children of Chicago. As Karen Lewis, CTU president has said, the longer school day is coming in 2012:
"We're not even discussing that, we want to discuss what that looks like,” Lewis said.

This is a huge victory for parents and children in Chicago. (And it will be a victory for teachers as well, who will be compensated and who will get relief time.)

[madfloridian]

6. It's kind of sad Walker can say that and have it be true.

[lutefisk]

3. Walker might as well praise Arne Duncan, while he's at it.

Duncan and his boss are enabling assholes like Walker through their education policies and rhetoric.

[mod mom]

4. rahm is a no good investment banker/corporate apologist out for himself and his cronies

It is a wing of the party I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR!

[Evasporque]

7. Yes WI Republicans are hard at work creating jobs...

By allowing conceal and carry
Right to shoot and kill intruders in your home, property, business or automobile
Forcing abstinence education in Public schools
Destroying public unions
Cutting public education budgets
Funneling public money to private religious education
Cutting Public healthcare assitance
forced Picture ID at the polls disenfranchising thousands of Wisconsin poor, elderly and student resident voters
And they are working on allowing a strip mine at the headwaters of one of the most pristine watersheds in the Great Lakes Region.

More to come from Walker's no-compromise, boat anchor Governing!

WISCONSIN IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS!! Watch us SINK!

[madfloridian]

11. I fear FL is going to be a lot like that before Rick Scott is done with us.

:mad:

[Scuba]

12. DINO's have infiltrated the party at all levels. All levels. n/t

[madfloridian]

14. And sad to say one thing they all have in common....

is the way they think of and speak about teachers.

It is heartbreaking to me to see the way teachers are treated like 2nd class citizens by our own party leaders.

And there is no one in leadership taking up for them.

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[madfloridian]

17. I know what you mean.

Teachers are feeling nervous and under pressure, and it is undeserved. Not a single leader in either party has the guts to step up and say stop the attacks on public schools. It's a shame.

[dtexdem]

13. Wow, Walker told the truth for once!

Who could have imagined? ;-)

[Jakes Progress]

18. rahm = scott = new democrat

[fascisthunter]

21. new democrat = fascist

same shit as the GOP = fascist

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[midnight]

23. How wonderful. The Democrats working at doing the same the Republican tea baggers are doing...

And believe me Scott is brewed and rancid....

[kimsarah]

31. Bipartisan

[sabrina 1]

24. Rahm Emanuel is a huge part of the problem

and who is he to decide how much power Liberals or anyone else has, in the party. That is up to the people.

He needs a rude awakening and hopefully he will get it. I can't believe he was elected to that position. What is wrong with the people there? Maybe now that they see what a thug he is regarding the protests, he will have a more difficult time next time.

[madfloridian]

30. He did such harm to FL races when he was DCCC chair

He forced some very good Democrats, two of them friends of mine, out of races and put in his cronies. He's done much harm here.

[sabrina 1]

34. He's a bully and a hypocrite, I cannot stand him and he is exactly

the kind of person we need to get out of our political system. Sorry about your friends, what a jerk he is.

[madfloridian]

41. One is running again, I hear. The party is ignoring it.

Actually 3 ran that year, with much enthusiasm. The party will not support liberals in any way in this state. When Rahm was DCCC chair, it was worse...he joined with the state party head to do great damage.

[sabrina 1]

43. Hopefully there will be challengers and people will donate

to and support them and no longer listen to the party operatives as we have in the past. Things are changing so it's possible that real democrats might have a chance with all the focus now on corporate funding of candidates.

[kimsarah]

32. Now now

f*ing retards need to be respectful of Mr. Emanuel

[sabrina 1]

33. Lol!

[Zorra]

26. Walker speaks the truth for once in his life. Rahm is our Scott Walker wannabe.

I feel sorry for Chicago, but they bought him, and they own him.

[Major Hogwash]

36. Rick Scott is doing in Florida what Walker did in Wisconsin -- and they're Governors!!!

They screwed the entire state.
Rahm is just a mayor.

[Starry Messenger]

37. k&r

Boy, does that say it all.

[mod mom]

38. They're made out of the same mold, those two. Both willing to serve

the oligarchy like good minions.

[dash_bannon]

39. Rahm = Republican

Rahm Emmanuel is a Republican. He's a DINO, a Democrat in Name Only.

I live in Chicagoland and can't stand the guy. He represents the worst of the Democratic Party.

[edhopper]

40. When Obama picked Rahm

a lot of people thought he would be Obama's SOB who would not take shit and "get things done." Unfortunately his main targets were liberals and progressives and those who thought Obama was giving away the store.
I have a strong feeling the purely political move to take away the public option in the hopes of getting one or two GOP votes all Rahm.