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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:26 PM Original message |
The black bloc & generalizations |
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Juneboarder
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. An eye for an eye... |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Which is why I said, sometimes. n/t |
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ProgressiveProfessor
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. Some here would disown them as RW provocateurs |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. And I respectfully think that's bullshit. |
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ProgressiveProfessor
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That it may be, but some are certainly pushing that POV |
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flamingdem
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I"d out them as under 28 and full of themselves nt |
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Occulus
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Sat Nov-05-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
50. They've been caught on camera in other protests |
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easttexaslefty
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Sat Nov-05-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. So that means they all are, |
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Juneboarder
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I wouldn't go that far.. |
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dtexdem
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I have been and remain part of the first -- I have not seen the second. |
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socialist_n_TN
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. Yeah I've seen those posts............ |
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flamingdem
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. Times have changes, the bloc doesn't want to acknowledge they are irrelevant |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Sure, if that's working. But sometimes more is needed. |
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flamingdem
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I can understand anger in Oakland, but it's got to stop now |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Again with the generalizations.... |
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flamingdem
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. You are generalizing saying that sometimes they serve a purpose |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Are you always so sure your opinion |
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flamingdem
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. It's my opinion |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I am. n/t |
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apocalypsehow
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. Laughable nonsense, on about three different levels. And transparent, at that. |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. How's that? n/t |
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apocalypsehow
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Uh huh. n/t. |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I'm waiting, apocalypsehow.... |
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flamingdem
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Name any movement or cause the Blac Bloc has significantly helped nt |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Um.... |
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apocalypsehow
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. You go right on waiting. But you're not fooling anybody, really. n/t. |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Okayyyy. |
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Demonaut
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. no, screw the black bloc, they're douchebags |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Maybe some actual readings of Ghandi & MLK |
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Demonaut
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I have, might be nice if you try |
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redqueen
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. So, to you, they weren't a destructive group |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Exactly. |
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redqueen
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Apparently not. |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Okay. Whatever, you think. |
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applegrove
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. The black block are just a bunch of hooligans. Peacefull protests work and the message |
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sulphurdunn
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Fri Nov-04-11 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. In the real world |
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socialist_n_TN
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. All because they break a few windows? |
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sulphurdunn
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Sat Nov-05-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Absolutely! |
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socialist_n_TN
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Sun Nov-06-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
58. "Being peaceable doesn't necessarily make you |
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JVS
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Wait, so in order to be non-violent the OWS demonstrators need to kick some ass? |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. The irony., |
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sulphurdunn
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Sat Nov-05-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. It does indeed. |
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sulphurdunn
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Sat Nov-05-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Would you prefer |
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JVS
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Sat Nov-05-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. You think that assaulting other people will not result in them being defined as violent threats? |
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sulphurdunn
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Sat Nov-05-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Self-defense |
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JVS
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Sat Nov-05-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Beating up someone for doing something you don't agree with but who aren't attacking you... |
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sulphurdunn
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Sat Nov-05-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Argumentum ad absurdum |
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JVS
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Sat Nov-05-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Since when are the blocs attacking the property or the relatives of the protestors? |
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sulphurdunn
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Sun Nov-06-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I see. |
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socialist_n_TN
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Sun Nov-06-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Don't they just attack corporate targets? |
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JVS
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Sun Nov-06-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. If it's citibank's store, I think the only ethical thing to do is stand back and let it happen. |
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JVS
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Sun Nov-06-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. And if you think my stance is strange, remember that you are the one advocating using violence.. |
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Earth_First
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. black bloc can KMA. n/t |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. You do know earth first is a RADICAL |
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Earth_First
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. The irony is delicious, isn't it? n/t |
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JVS
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. To each his own. There's plenty of world for OWS to do one thing and black bloc to do another. |
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easttexaslefty
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. True this. n/t |
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Donald Ian Rankin
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Fri Nov-04-11 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
43. The single worst threat to non-violent protest is violent people joining in. |
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ProgressiveProfessor
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Sat Nov-05-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Wrong, the biggest threat is the non violent participants reacting with violence |
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sulphurdunn
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Sun Nov-06-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. What do you do about |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Sun Nov-06-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
57. yep,nothing wins over working class Americans more than the sight of masked men smashing windows and |
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lonestarnot
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Sun Nov-06-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Yeppers. That is like the LA rioters, tearing up their own shit in their neighborhoods. Really |
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