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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:13 AM Original message |
The Penn State sex abuse mess is going to ruin that school |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. can someone tell me |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. There's not really that many as a percentage of the population.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Nonsense -- every pedophile has multiple victims -- sometimes a hundred or more!! |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Even if this is true.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. It's a 50,000 year epidemic -- !! And it rises with the rW -- !! |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. Okay, it's being going on for a long time - |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. The male war on women and children is an epidemic ... |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. An entirely different issue. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Pedophilia is hugely under reported --- any study on it will tell you that --- |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. bullshit |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Agree -- and FREUD well knew the truth of this --- |
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Laluchacontinua (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. yeah, it's rampant, but it's all covered up. yeah. men will 'mess with' anything, they're evil. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 03:21 AM Response to Reply #47 |
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Laluchacontinua (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 03:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. not at all. i'm not obsessed with the threat of sexual attack to myself or my children. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #51 |
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Laluchacontinua (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 03:32 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. i must have missed the facts. all i saw was the claim that there was lots |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #53 |
75. 1998 JAMA Study: "90% of pedophiles are male, 95% are hetereosexual" --- |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. "Bullshit." Ah, such a wonderful response. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. In the Catholic Church it's been a 2,000 year "epidemic" -- ask any Italian ... !! |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Because they are sick assholes |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hadn't read anything about this -- back tomorrow to read -- thanks -- !! |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. Demonstrates the insidious hold athletics has on institutions |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. The night shift janitors said it, "afraid of losing jobs if we speak up." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Agree, probably would -- but in general everyone is afraid enough to throw away freedom/democracy--! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. Because sports is a great distraction from actual education ... which is unpopular with elites!! |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
49. A state school needs to advertise to attract out-of-state students |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
77. MIT must have a great football team then |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. I hadn't heard anything about it until this thread. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. well here are the first ones falling |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. I'm confused, it he was a college coach, where were the boys from? |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Never mind, I just read enough to want to beat him senseless |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Was just reading about Sandusky's "foundation" --- were there victims there, as well? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. I believe that all of the victims were from his foundation |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Thank you -- I had only read this one article on the scandal and wasn't clear as to |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. They were teens and younger. He formed a nonprofit for at risk youth so he could prey |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. So many similarities to the denial and coverups around priests... |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. There will also be civil suits and |
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Laluchacontinua (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. This is how business is. Nearly everyone involved was in CYA mode, don't |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
10. One reaction after reading the report: |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
11. GOP Gov. Corbett protecting Paterno & Paterno's son, a GOP congressional candidate. |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. In the end, Jo Pa is going down |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. friend of father Bush -- ugh |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. One could consider that patriarchy is held together by sexual abuse .... |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. What happens to the ice cream? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
48. It will no longer be Peachy Paterno. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. I don't think he makes it to the end of the season |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
14. I Think It's Going to Wreck a Lot More Than Penn State |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. Unbelieavably sad. I am so disgusted with the whole AD and school President. |
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Jankyn (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
18. Don't forget Rene Portland... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I disagree... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. +1 -- even better!! |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. I thought about that. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Worked for Chicago. |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
60. Do You Really Think |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. KR -- Recall hearing abou tthat case -- and agree -- just more cover up -- !! |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. But Rene Portland was a woman! |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
22. wiki says he is married and has 6 adopted children.....sounds |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. K/R --- quite a concern - trust someone is trying to find out -- !! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
23. And this should also cause even more concern re Sandusky . . . |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. According to the PSU admins, they informed the foundation of allegations in 2002 |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
38. The original DA, Ray Gricar, who opted not to prosecute in 1998 disappeared completely in 2005. |
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Fawke Em (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. This was featured on the ID show, "Disappeared." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. Interesting -- is there any reason to think he was investigating Sandusky/Penn State? |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I have no idea. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Guess I should get into the files ... but WHAT was Sandusky being prosecuted for in '98??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. For record: "Investigation by University Police in 1998 -- !! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Report: Penn State president will be gone by end of day |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
39. I am really, really sad and upset about this... |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
40. Sports Illustrated did did an article on Sandusky.....it's enough |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. Ruin Penn State? It's always had a bad rep. |
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Dulcinea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Did PSU refuse you admission or something? |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. No they didn't turn me down because I never applied. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
55. If Joe Paterno knew about it he needs to resign now. And I've read where he knew |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
71. it was already ruined--only a coverup kept a veil of lies over the crimes. |
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Efilroft Sul (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
73. If Penn State doesn't receive the NCAA death penalty for this… |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
74. The football program, definitely, the administration, maybe, |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
76. And the rioting by students now makes them look like they condone pedophilia too |
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