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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 06:40 PM Original message |
Cain we get this straight! The woman was sexually assaulted, not harassed. |
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undeterred
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Mon Nov-07-11 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sexual harassment can indeed involve physical contact |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That is why I want to know if he moved after her protestation. |
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undeterred
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. If we're talking about the same situation... |
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Scuba
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I would disagree. Being forced to have sex to save your job goes way past harassment. .. |
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66 dmhlt
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Mon Nov-07-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. Looking for a job, so Herman Showed Her His "Stimulus Package" |
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Major Nikon
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Mon Nov-07-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. The law says it's just sexual harassment |
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undeterred
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Mon Nov-07-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
49. I'm talking about the legal definition. |
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whathehell
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Molestation and Battery, |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. When that "TOUCH" becomes a pulling her head against resistance, |
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whathehell
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Tue Nov-08-11 05:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Um...I'm basically agreeing with you |
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Nye Bevan
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Mon Nov-07-11 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Regardless of whether he stopped when she objected, it was still sexual assault. |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yes indeedy, but continuing on, may skirt rape territory. |
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You dont think it is relevant that he sexually assaulted a woman, and there are three more so far |
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Mon Nov-07-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. What hysteria? This is a message board. People post opinions. |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. If true why werent criminal charges filed. How do perps buy their way out of actual crimes? nm |
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Scuba
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Start with money and/or connections. n/t |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It was a rhetorical question. We need a "rhetorical" emoticon. nm |
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Scuba
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Mon Nov-07-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Yeah, rhetorical questions tend to generate sarcasm. n/t |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. As is the case in many rapes, the women often think it would be less painful to just not report it. |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I understand that. However, when it comes to light that a crime has been committed why dont the |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. In this case, statute of limitations. He is being tried in the court of public opinion. |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Isnt it against the law to fail to report a crime? If someone fails to report a crime |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Um no. Extortion is pulling her head toward the first installment on her job. |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Nov-07-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. I have no idea what that means. Extortion is when you take money instead of reporting a crime. nm |
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WingDinger
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Tue Nov-08-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Or anything embarrassing. |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. In this case, statute of limitations. He is being tried in the court of public opinion. |
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femrap
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
18. I bet there are more |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I think this is poetic justice, to one who is on a book tour, joke campaign. |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I like that curse. Hope you are never mad at me. nm |
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femrap
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Mon Nov-07-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. You have Bernie |
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rhett o rick
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Mon Nov-07-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. I worry about Sen Sanders. One of the few that is fighting for the 99%. nm |
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K8-EEE
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
22. I don't really consider it assault, since he stopped when she asked |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. So, had he shoved her head to business too fast for her to object, she is consenting? |
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seabeyond
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. stuck hand up skirt, grabbed head and pushed down, that is not assault? really? |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Is this the Palinification of feminism? |
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seabeyond
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. i think, it is so sad. i had a conversation with my 19 yr old niece today |
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K8-EEE
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. But he didn't though |
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seabeyond
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. ok... so i am standing in line and a man stands behind me |
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K8-EEE
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Mon Nov-07-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. That wasn't the situation though was it nt |
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seabeyond
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Mon Nov-07-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. because the hand didnt make it quite to the crotch you are ok with it. THAT was the situation |
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K8-EEE
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Mon Nov-07-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well I don't know about you but in my experience a lot of this sex stuff is non-verbal |
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seabeyond
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Mon Nov-07-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. grabbing a womans head and shoving it in his crotch is just sexual foreplay? |
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K8-EEE
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Mon Nov-07-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. He was definitely asking for a blowjob but |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Try spitting at a cop and they will call it assaulting an officer. |
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K8-EEE
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Mon Nov-07-11 10:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Again, hardly the same situation |
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WingDinger
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Tue Nov-08-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
65. I think it is fair to say, you are proposing getting off with a technicality, literally. |
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uppityperson
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Mon Nov-07-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. pulling her head down isn't "forcing"? Seriously? |
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seabeyond
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Mon Nov-07-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. courtin to some. lol. nt |
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WingDinger
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Many years ago, I had a friend, a nice guy BUT, at nightclubs, he would |
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Politicalboi
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Mon Nov-07-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. And why would she even think she had to say no |
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WingDinger
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Tue Nov-08-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
78. NO, is a very important convention. Unless she is mute, No serves to distinguish |
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Nye Bevan
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Again, men are not entitled to one free grope of any woman, |
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seabeyond
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Mon Nov-07-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. oooops, grab my tit. no, thank you. but hey, thanks anyway. nt |
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Nye Bevan
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Mon Nov-07-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Oh you didn't WANT me to do that? Oh well, no harm no foul (nt) |
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Caretha
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Mon Nov-07-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
50. Your are one |
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whathehell
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Tue Nov-08-11 05:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
57. Wrong.....Touching anyone in an unwanted manner is ILLEGAL and can subject you to arrest. |
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Glimmer of Hope
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Tue Nov-08-11 05:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Exactly! |
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whathehell
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Tue Nov-08-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
86. Thank you....It nice to see that a remnant of sanity on the issue remains, Lol. |
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noiretextatique
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Tue Nov-08-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
83. the assault had already occurred when she asked him to stop |
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lbrtbell
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Mon Nov-07-11 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
35. This is why women need to start carrying stun guns |
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Faryn Balyncd
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Mon Nov-07-11 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
51. As Cain treats (assaults) women, so the GOP treats America . . . : |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Nov-08-11 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
55. Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey & Juanita Broaddrick all claimed Bill Clinton sexually assaulted |
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whathehell
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Tue Nov-08-11 05:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Please...We know that he's had at least four complaints and a couple of cash "settlements". |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Nov-08-11 05:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Bill Clinton had all kinds of accusations against him - and a settlement of $850,000 |
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Tue Nov-08-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
81. Yes, and at least one that he denied (Monica Lewinsky) turned out to be TRUE, didn't it? |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Nov-08-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. as long as you are holding Bill Clinton to the same standard that you hold Herman Cain |
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whathehell
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Tue Nov-08-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. That's real nice of you, Doug |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Wed Nov-09-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. it has been at least three decades since anyone has accused me of being very young |
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redqueen
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Tue Nov-08-11 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
61. Yes, it is sexual harassment. |
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Lance_Boyle
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Tue Nov-08-11 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
62. No. Let's get this straight. The woman CLAIMS she was sexually assaulted. |
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WingDinger
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Tue Nov-08-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Innocent till proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, is for criminal proceedings. |
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Lance_Boyle
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Tue Nov-08-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. She is accusing him of a crime. |
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WingDinger
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Tue Nov-08-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. If every public figure sued the Nat. Enquirer, that is all courts would do. |
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Lance_Boyle
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. He can't sue the media, assuming the media is using the correct terminology |
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WingDinger
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. He has already threatened to sue Politico. |
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Lance_Boyle
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Did politico use the proper terminology or did they publish as fact |
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WingDinger
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Tue Nov-08-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. It says he was accused. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Lance_Boyle
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Tue Nov-08-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Do not read Politico so I'll have to take your word for it. |
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LanternWaste
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Tue Nov-08-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Some see band-wagon jumping, others see patience |
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Maybe she didn't want to risk her career at the time. she was obviously in Cain's network and laying |
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seabeyond
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. faced the same treatment or worse who can't speak out |
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WingDinger
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Tue Nov-08-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Almost had to testify against boss/owner, when he grabbed coworkers crotch thru shorts, ripping |
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seabeyond
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Tue Nov-08-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. ya. from personal experiences i dont share on du, lol |
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KansDem
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Tue Nov-08-11 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
66. Remember, she wasn't suppose to speak to him unless he spoke first! |
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samsingh
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Tue Nov-08-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
79. first- is she telling the truth? |
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whathehell
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Tue Nov-08-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. What would the odds be on all FIVE lying? |
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. i actually believe her and the others |
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