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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:32 PM Original message |
I know it's bad for women when they are sexually harassed, but what about guys? |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. or they could just want to get laid. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. *sigh* |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Sorry, that was a little tacky. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. No problem, I think I've made my point here. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. the majority are females that are sexually harassed, and yes, there are males that are. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 06:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
64. Please look at this; |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. my response would be really? i would like for the person to explain what they mean |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. It's right below this post. Post #3 in this thread to be specific. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. post 71. reading her post, i think it is clear that she is saying, she cannot see a male is able to |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. And if I said, "I'd like to see women harassed sexually", would that not automatically |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. how does the sexual harassment of males take place, and where? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #75 |
83. It's happened to me. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. i hear ya. but |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 03:34 AM Response to Reply #86 |
103. It's really something. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. shoving a womans head in the crotch and saying, want a job, blow. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. I have heard of it, but never seen it. I have seen women harassed sexually countless times |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. For a boy, all growing up is sexual harassment. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. True, boys force other boys to not be gay. But what about men being sexually harassed the way women |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Me, to my lead assistant: "This is hard!" |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Who employs whom? Who holds the keys to whose job? nt |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Who cares? That is inappropriate |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. It's very important in a court of law. nt |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I could not have done that without going through human resources. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 06:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
63. Your impression seems correct. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I've seen it in offices where older women are in charge |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I'd like to hear of one instance. I have heard it exists but have no clue of even what |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. I once overheard an office manager berate her male assistant.... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Now that's degrading and QUITE hostile and mean as hell. But did she grab him down there, or |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Um....ok...... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Harrassment. In a court of law, I believe sexual harassment involves... |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. ...."the boss simply has him or her fired" |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Yep, because bosses hold the key to the job. The onus is on the boss, to prove innocence |
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Moosepoop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
70. Hostile work enviro IS A FORM of sexual harassment. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. +1 |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. A friend of mine was in a situation like that. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Well, I don't know that that's sexual harassment. That's sure a hostile work environment. nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:46 AM Response to Reply #45 |
58. When someone is making constant sexual remarks... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #58 |
88. I'm sure they're being sexually harassed. However, the way courts look at it involves |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. I was sexually harassed by the landlady. And when I said I would not have sex with her, she told me |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Her heroin addict boyfriend? Sheesh! omg nt |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. I know there have been lawsuits by male employees |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
50. It happened to a guy friend of mine |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
102. It's happened to me several times. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
42. Verbal harassment in these cases is quite common. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. The phone calls I got late at night from my employees, perhaps? |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I was under the impression that... |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. We must live on different planets. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Legally speaking. In a court of law. It's an inappropriate offer of exchange. nt |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Your definitions are way out of date. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. This is a far more accurate explanation... |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 05:52 AM Response to Reply #27 |
60. No, It's basically anyone's comfort level with anything sexual in any nature. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
80. No, employment extortion is only one potential factor. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
91. Your beliefs are totally and utterly wrong. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
61. Oh dear FSM. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
71. "I'd like to see men harassed sexually. " you want to see men sexually harassed? |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
84. My husband was sexually harassed at works years ago. He was on |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. all sexual harrassment is about power. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. No it isn't |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. not necessarily the power over someone in s supervisor role. can be someone on the same level |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I've seen people with less power sexually harass someone |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. as i say, they try to pick the vulnerable ones to weild their power. same as rape. same as old men |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. It's an attempt to exert power; real or perceived. The bigger the bully, |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. it's also the attempt to have power of the other person |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #9 |
56. All the more reason for them to do it in an attempt to gain power, no? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. exactly. i dont know why people dont get it. it isnt hidden or hard to see or subtle. nt |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
53. I personally think some people (especially some men) are just not capable of seeing it for what it |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. Sexual Harassment is Sexual Harassment. It doesn't matter if it's male or female. It's illegal. n/t |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. it is all bad. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Yes. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. IIRC it's rare, and of course lacks the implied threat of physical violence. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. Just like rape it happens just as often |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
76. Men are raped and sexually harassed at the same rates that women are? |
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Rabblevox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
18. Yes, men can be victims of sexual harassment. However, the power dynamic... |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
21. I had a superior make an advance on me when I was working |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. I was by other guys in the high school locker rooms. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
30. Women have limits. I have had several say inappropriate statements, but never |
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chemp (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
47. I was hit on by male co-worker back in 1984 |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
54. I have been sexually harassed, but I think it is a little different |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. Men are raped in prison every day |
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akbacchus_BC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
57. Unless you are in a lower position and even then, you can say 'NO' |
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aaaaaa5a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
59. According to this news article, 14% of all sexual harassment claims have male victims. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #59 |
85. It does happen. Should be a tool for mutual understanding, not a bone of contention as some would |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. geeez, i am going to start reading every. one. of your posts. balance. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. Thanks. I theorize we're smart enough here to discuss hard topics w/o the usual defensive crouching. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
62. Have had many women make inappropriate comments over the years |
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Faithful One (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
65. I think men don't report it as much because as you said, lots of people(mostly women) don't believe |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
67. Has anyone said it doesn't happen to men? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #67 |
77. A couple of people did imply it upthread, yes. (nt) |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #67 |
78. Yes. Upthread someone had never heard of a single case. |
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Puzzledtraveller (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
68. I have, by clients and co-workers |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. This is yet another major reason that this caricature of machismo needs to die now. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. i LOVE your post. and you know what? my boys have not found they lost their manhood |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Our culture seems to be determindedly backsliding. A few pop culture examples ... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I don't know if it's just fun and games. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. It's presented as a game to deflect how really cartoonishly nasty & weird these memes are. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Oh yes... definitely. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Dupe. After weird server delay. (nt) |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Tough Guise: Violence, Media & the Crisis in Masculinity |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. LOL |
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SecularMotion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
82. I know it's bad for minorities when they are racially discriminated, but what about white people? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #82 |
94. I don't think the thoughts on male harrassment in this thread are offered in that vein at all. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
89. It's bad when people get sexually harassed. (n/t) |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
90. I imagine that particular statistical aberration... |
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locahungaria (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
92. Yes, men can be sexually harassed...... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
105. Historically, it;s only recently that women were in a position of power at work |
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