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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:44 AM Original message |
Is a Woman's Right to Choose Absolute and Unconditional? |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. Agreed 100 percent. |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes. |
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left coaster (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. YES, YES, YES, on all points you brought up, Le Taz! nt |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
5. Yes. |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
6. Yes. Not even debatable.n/t |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
7. Absolute. Yes it is her choice. n/t |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. Absolutely n/t |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
9. Yup. Her choice. People have rights, even to make stupid choices. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. Yes. |
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haikugal (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yes, it is. |
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backtoblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
12. A woman's body is not a political battlefield. |
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Lady Freedom Returns (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
13. What you posted makes perfect sense to me. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
14. Any regulation opens things up for more regulation IMHO |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
15. Absolutely. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
16. I think all non-cosmetic medical procedures should be a right. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
17. Legally, it is not. This is a fact. Perhaps you are asking "should it be unconditional"? |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. This is true |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. +1 |
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locahungaria (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yes, agree 100%. n/t |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
20. On what level? If she is involved with the man who made her pregnant, she is obligated |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. why should she? what if she knows he will try to force her to have it, and she wants |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. A baby would be his financial responsibility. And also, he may want the child. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
49. tough shit for him if he wants the fetus carried to term.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
58. Until science finds a way to allow men to carry a fetus to term, |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
84. selfdelete |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
83. their what ifs are as valid as the what ifs you state. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #83 |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Why is she obligated to inform him?? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. You don't have sexual intercourse with a spouse and not involve them in such matters. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Why not? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. That's not how a marriage works. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. how naive of you |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
81. Right, because you have been married for how long...? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. just had our 10th anniversary ... and we lived together for almost 5 years |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
101. oh yeah ... just what point did you think you were trying to make?? n/t |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
76. Unfortunately, that's how a lot of them work. You didn't answer my questions. n/t |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. I'm not interested in answering your bullshit strawman questions. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
103. My questions are reality based. n/t |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
88. If that's the case, then it's not much of a marriage. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. What 'happens'? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Oh, okay, I agree - I responded before I read your post below. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
66. Nope. Its her pregnancy, not his. nt |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
87. I'm really conflicted about this. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Thank you. I'm sure many here will say, "anecdotes mean nothing" |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #92 |
108. Unfortunately the person you think you married is not |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. I agree with you. Keep in mind we weren't asked whether it should or should not be legal. I |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #87 |
132. Valid points. However, the welfare of the child needs to be involved in any discussion |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. When one partner wants to be a parent and the other does not |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #135 |
154. However, no one is forced to be a parent. Paying child support does not = parenting. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
125. No she is not obligated to involve him |
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a_post_8 (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
128. it's their baby too???? |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
21. I agree with you completely. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
22. I agree. There's a huge difference between having an opinion/belief and making it a law. Something |
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Ship of Fools (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
24. Agreed 110%. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
27. If a woman has a child that man does not want, can he abort his financial obligation? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Amen to that. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. No. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. And if she went off the pill without telling him, in a deliberate attempt to |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. if he is that worried about unwanted pregnancy, he should get a vasectomy.... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. So her deliberately misleading him is a valid option for her. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. did i say that? no i did not. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Well I know that no man would ever think of such an amazingly |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
161. +1 |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
126. Nope |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
142. Nope. And it isn't fair. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
28. I am as Pro-Choice as they come... |
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RT Atlanta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
30. Yes, as a husband & father of daughters |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
31. Yes. nt |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
32. Yes it is |
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SomethingFishy (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
159. Hypocritical? I'm one of those that calls her brainwashed... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
33. Until the fetus is viable outside the womb, yes. After viability exists, I believe |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
35. Mostly, but not absolutely - but there really are few real instances that |
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easttexaslefty (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
37. Yes. n/t |
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Magoo48 (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
38. Yes, her body her choice... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
40. Yes, but... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
41. Yes. Anything else is virtual reproductive slavery. |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
42. I'll be today's DU punching bag and say "no" |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
44. Should a woman who is 8 1/2 month pregnant with a healthy pregnancy be allowed to abort? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. stupid fucking strawman.... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Your reaction suggests that you think this should be a condition. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. no it would not be wrong. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. This response speaks volumes. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
99. yup, it says loud and clear that i TRUST WOMEN to make the best decisions |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. In fairness that's exactly the kind of question that the OP, written as it is, |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Nope, the question has been stated over and over and over |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. "Right to Choose" implies it. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. I never stated if it ever happened. I only asked if it would be allowed under the "Absolute Right to |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. since it never happens, why do you need to ban it? n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Can anyone prove that it NEVER happens? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. well since one can't prove a negative, i guess it's on YOU to prove it does n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
95. If it NEVER happens, what is the harm in banning it? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. oh because our government doesn't have anthing to spend their time and money |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. How much money would it cost to ban a procedure which never happens? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. it costs money to ban late term abortions |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #105 |
139. Why would you have to test the viability of an 8.5 month pregnancy? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #95 |
134. Because it opens the door. |
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Occupy_2012 (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
113. Nothing *never* happens. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
124. That never happens |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
45. yes of course but I think the Roe v Wade demarcation is reasonable. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
106. agreed n/t |
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Occupy_2012 (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
115. Conservatives are fighting day and night to overturn Roe. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #115 |
149. The reasoning in Roe v Wade is sound. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
46. Yes to infinity. nt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
48. Of course it is - |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
50. Yes... |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
54. Yes, But not the right to choose. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. +1 |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
60. Who on DU said it wasn't? n/t |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. I know some on DU don't like nader |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
64. I believe that no-one has the right to tell a woman she CAN'T make the choice... |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
67. Yes, absolutely. |
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dtexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
69. After a fetus' brain starts to work, there is a benefit-of-the-doubt argument ... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
75. Yes it is. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
79. Agreed n/t |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
82. Yes. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
85. Absolutely. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
89. I'm with Roe vs Wade on this: in the first two trimesters yes, in the third trimester no. |
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Occupy_2012 (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #89 |
117. Why do you assume all abortions are voluntary? |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 06:56 AM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Why do you assume that I assume that all abortions are voluntary? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #121 |
136. Because you want to ban 3rd trimester abortions |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #136 |
147. Did you even *read* my post? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
91. Absolute and unconditional. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
94. Her right to control her own body, yes. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
96. Has anyone suggested outlawing kids beyond a certain number? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
100. Yes. It's her body and her life. My, or anybody else's opinion, doesn't count. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
104. yes |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
107. Absolutely. |
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Gamow (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
109. Yes. K&R. |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
110. I think there's two separate issues you bring up. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
111. no |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
112. According to the trimesters established by Roe v. Wade, yes. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
114. You bet your sweet bippy it's absolute. And absolutely, utterly NON-NEGOTIABLE. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
118. That you have to argue that point on this "liberal" board is no surprise to me. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
119. No. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-08-11 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
120. Duggers are having their 20th child ... !! Sickening -- but up to her -- !! |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
122. Up until viability ... yes |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
123. Yes |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
127. No right is absolute and unconditional. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #127 |
138. If it's not absolute, it's not a right. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #138 |
140. Is shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater protected free speech? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #140 |
143. Yes. In fact you will find many plays, operas and musicals where people shout "fire". |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #138 |
162. er...no. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
129. Why, of course. Naturally. nt |
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a_post_8 (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
130. No state jurisdiction within a person's body |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #130 |
133. The state has no jurisdiction to force someone to give the use of their body to another |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
131. Yes. There are other ways to deal with this woman who is addicted than to take away all women's |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
137. You're gonna have to excuse my diversity of opinion, but I agree with Roe v Wade |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #137 |
141. Until you can demonstrate a case like that happening |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #141 |
144. I don't have to demonstrate anything of the sort. You asked a purely philosophical question. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #144 |
145. If you want a ban, you should demonstrate that the to-be-banned activity is happening |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #145 |
146. I don't know why when faced with a different opinion you forget what philosophical means. |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #141 |
157. Yes, such laws are "solutions looking for a problem." Uneccessary, insulting & potentially harmful. |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #137 |
155. And a limb should not be subject to amputation without a medically valid reason. |
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Mad_Dem_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
148. YES. eom |
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Umbral (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
150. Of course it is, anything less is slavery. nt |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
151. please quit conflating this arguments. no-one or practically no-one |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Thank you. |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
153. Women have 100% rights over their body. However, if this woman |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
156. Yes |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
158. Yes - and here is why |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
160. I don't think I believe that anything is Absolute and Unconditional. |
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