What is the story of the Ohio Health care referendum?
Nancy Waterman
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:46 PM
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What is the story of the Ohio Health care referendum? |
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It sounds like a defeat of Obama's health care bill, a constitutional amendment in Ohio that limits it. Has this one gone under the radar? I haven't been following it, but the little I heard sounds like Ohioans may have been propagandized by the right on this one. Does anyone understand it?
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:47 PM
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1. They voted to reject mandates. |
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:53 PM
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7. Hmm, I'd vote to reject mandates too. |
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I wouldn't call it defeating "Obamacare" though. I want Single Payer or even a public option - and would vote against being forced to make a purchase from greedy-assed private insurance companies.
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Wed Nov-09-11 12:10 AM
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Wed Nov-09-11 12:27 AM
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15. That's the bummer of it |
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I saw a clip on fox that said Ohio rejects obamacare...that's what all the republicans will say...
If I didn't have healthcare that I am lucky to only have to pay $100 a month for I would say no to mandates too since we are retired on budget and can't afford more than that. We are 62 and 55 so no Medicare yet...
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:48 PM
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How both bills can essentially win with the same percentage.
Of course, Rethugs are proclaiming that the most important vote of the night, even though I heard zip about it.
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:52 PM
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Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 11:53 PM by Matariki
responded to wrong post, sorry.
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:49 PM
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:49 PM
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4. at least in my part of ohio |
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I did not hear much about it. Also it was worded a bit weird probably confused a lot of folks. It sounded like if you don't vote for this you wont be able to choose your health care.
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Nancy Waterman
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:53 PM
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I think it got in under the radar and may hurt people by denying them some of what is in the health care law. I think people were tricked by the wording on purpose. The usual GOP scare tactics.
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:54 PM
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8. The mandate will never win a popularity contest. |
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But everyone must participate for the thing work as designed.
According to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz on Lawrence O'Donnell, if the SCOTUS does not strike down the ACA it will override the Ohio vote because it is federal law.
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Wed Nov-09-11 12:06 AM
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11. Right? Who likes mandates? |
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I wonder how popular something like the "Everyone pays, everyone benefits" ballot initiative would go over?
We need to be more thoughtful about our wording/messaging... Maybe we should hire Frank Luntz for our side occasionally.
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Wed Nov-09-11 12:18 AM
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Though Repugs and M$M will naturally demonize it with their own smear job no matter what you choose to call it (see "Obamacare").
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Tue Nov-08-11 11:59 PM
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9. I don't think it actually has any legal effect. |
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Wed Nov-09-11 12:02 AM
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10. That tells me that a lot of tps and repubs |
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voted no, on keeping the union bargaining rights law. That's the only way I can figure with the #'s on both votes.
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Wed Nov-09-11 12:10 AM
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12. They can't negate a federal law |
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Also, the ballot question was totally fucked: a YES vote meant you hate "Obamacare"; a NO vote means the insurance companies can't deny you coverage or kick you out if you get sick. Makes sense, eh.
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