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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 07:54 PM Original message |
In Sweden, a generation of kids who've never been spanked |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Violence (only) begets violence." |
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Happyhippychick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. Can't wait for the day that is true for American children |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sounds like a country I would love to live in - |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. And then he became a spoiled brat. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Bet she never ran out into the street again. n/t |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Actually, you were not wrong at all. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It's not necessary |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. I had the experience of watching my brother hit by a car when I was 12 and he was 8.. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. it's ridiculous to think that spanked children are safer around cars than non-spanked children |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Ever had someone you love run over right in front of you? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. i'm not going to help you rationalize spanking |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Hit by me stings for a few minutes.. |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 03:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You have not thought about this |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You haven't read what I wrote very closely.. |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Here's some moral backup |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. So you're saying you inflict pain on your child, purposely |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. "If you set out to inflict pain, that's wrong, on a child, it's worse."....your not setting out to |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. so simple touching is all you need to do |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-11 06:02 AM Response to Reply #53 |
80. So you're saying that spanking shouldn't cause physical pain |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
73. No I don't. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. That is a stupid argument. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Cause every child gets it they'll die if they run in front of a moving car? Really? |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. To quote Strongbad. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Not every child responds to a sit down teaching of why not running in front of cars isn't a good ... |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #58 |
79. Nice attempt |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
51. Correct, if teaching and talking it out didn't get the response needed then what else but the threat |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
77. Maybe you should have put up a fucking fence. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. i've thought about this situation, and i think it's not a good idea even then. |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. You know what gets a better reaction? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Great post. I remember a psychological study |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:09 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Only if your child is receptive to that, regrettably |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. AMEN! I dont beleive a one size fits all approach to raising kids is the best, there should be... |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
65. Well, my 4.5 yo is like your older one |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Thanks for the un-agitated reply |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Ah yes. |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Thanks for your kind words |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Ooops, dupe. Got a bug message. nt |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Ugh |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. So you support child abuse? I hope you don't have kids. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I don't entirely agree with THAT, but.......... |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. Hmmm........ |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. HtB's family spanks |
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OutNow (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Never spank a kid |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Peace is the answer... until it's not... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Well that's the dumbest rationalization for child abuse ever. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. If that is what you took away from that... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. you act like that was your only post in the thread |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. That's the dumbest thing I have heard in a while. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. You know its funny |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. If peace is the answer, |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
10. I wish that kind of intervention had happened with me as a kid. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. The most important thing is to never punish a child when you feel |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
15. How many times do I have to say this - SPANKING DOESN'T WORK!!! |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Based on what? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. The poster did not say that spanking causes people to be failures as adults |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Spanking does not correct undesirable behavior |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Entirely correct |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
50. Nor should it |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. untold generations |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. My sister's kids are what I call "mother deaf" |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
49. YES IT DOES!!! The worst of choices but it works to quickly change a behavior. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
35. This discussion is very interesting to me as a father of an almost 3 year old |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Thanks for your input. I hope you never spank! |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
67. Me too and I forgot to mention one thing ... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. Any violence against a child, even "mere spanking" is wrong. Period. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
44. "The United States and Somalia," that says a lot in and of itself. I also believe that Sweden has |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. So those countries that are using children as soldiers have ratified the treaty? |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yes they know which way the world is evolving, even if they don't live up to their words, the |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Come on, we live in a failed state run by corporations, |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. "The military industrial complex;" basically warlords on steroids. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I have a hard time picturing Apple as a warlord on steroids. n/t |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. That's why I put the "Military Industrial Complex" in quotes. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
52. The question is |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Well, no... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. So the CNN article is one big pile of bunk, then? |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. No it isn't. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Well, according to you, even given this second response, it is. |
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Celefin (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Maybe I just talk too much. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
57. And soon, a generation of children raised without the idea that it's ok to buy sex. |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
63. There's no reason to spank when waving a gun around is far more effective |
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