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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 12:02 AM
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Jihad in the local GOP (over Grover Norquist)
Some don't like the idea that Grover is married to a Muslim...
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http://www.gazette.com/opinion/local-128387-poll-editor.html

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The Norquist visit has become a controversy, but not on the left. It has created a rift among Republicans. David Williams, vice chair of the El Paso County Republican Party, sent mass emails that encourage a boycott of his own organization’s event. State Sen. Kent Lambert and his predecessor, Dave Schultheis, are also promoting the boycott.

In play is a conspiracy theory that casts Norquist as an ally of Islamic Jihadists. That’s because Norquist assists Muslims who try to liberate markets and promote capitalism. The suspicions of conspiracy theorists are elevated by Norquist’s marriage to a beautiful Muslim woman — never mind that she’s a devoted conservative who used to head the Islamic Free Market Institute.

“It’s a political hatchet job by people trying to make names for themselves,” said Bremmer. “There’s about as much evidence that George W. Bush was involved in the 9/11 attacks as there is evidence supporting these claims against Grover.”

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 12:04 AM
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1. "a political hatchet job"?! LOL "Live by the sword, die by the sword."
Tough shit, grover.

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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 12:10 AM
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2. The whole thing is very sick and twisted. I don't know
whether to love it, or love it a lot!
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 01:31 AM
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3. So the worm turns on the handler?
They trained the yo-yo's to believe in far-fetched conspirecies...did they really think it would stop at them?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 01:39 AM
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4. He's married?
They are going to have to deprogram all those freepers now that we are backing Islamists in our next phase of the PNAC. It does get confusing for the poor kool-aid drinkers. Just when they had permission to be as bigoted as they want, they are finding out that their overlords never believed the propaganda they were selling to get their wars going. But it's very hard to deprogram cult members.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 01:48 AM
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5. So OWS is real
but the Arab Spring is all PNAC?

Huh.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:40 AM
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7. Um,
Egypt and Tunisia, are REAL, as is OWS which is why they are working together. OWS NY eg, is sending money to monitor their elections, and tonight the Egyptian revolutionaries marched in solidarity with Occupy Oakland.

Egypt and Tunisia were not on the PNAC list, so I don't get your point.

Iraq was invaded as the first on the list. Early this year, due to the destruction and invasion of their country, the installation of a puppet government and the loss of their jobs, the takeover of their oil, their dignity, the torture etc that comes with NATO invasions, the Iraqi people joined Egypt and Tunisia to protest the Western installed government. On the first day, 29 peaceful, unarmed Iraqis were shot and killed, hundreds more were arrested. And the media did not cover their peaceful protests and the brutal crackdown.

Libya WAS also on the PNAC list and can now be checked off as the war profiteers pour into the country and the brutality towards Immigrants and civilians, continues, and the war crimes go uninvestigated, just like Iraq.

And the next few on the PNAC list which will be invaded under the pretext once again, of 'humanitarianism' will definitely, like Libya, NOT be part of the Arab Spring. Like Iraq, the Libyans now have formed a rebel organization, so the country can simply look to Iraq to know how they will live for the next few decades, under the thumb of the Western Imperial nations.

So far, the only two successful Arab Spring Revolutions are Egypt and Tunisia. Egypt however has been hi-jacked by the Western controlled military, which was a fear when Gates and Clinton flew there after the ousting of Mubarak. Tunisia so far, has been the most successful.

Your comment makes no sense to me, maybe you can elaborate.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 02:42 AM
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6. Actually, Sir, There Is Some Validity To the Charges....
The material here is from the Congressional Record.

http://wolf.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=34&parentid=6§iontree=6,34&itemid=1805

Not only was Mr. Norquist entangled with the criminal dealings of Jack Abramoff, but documentation shows that he has deep ties to supporters of Hamas and other terrorist organizations that are sworn enemies of the United States and our ally Israel.

According to Senate lobbying disclosure records of his now defunct lobbying firm, Janus-Merritt Strategies, around the years 2000 and 2001 Mr. Norquist’s firm represented Abdurahman Alamoudi, who was convicted two years later for his role in a terrorist plot and who is presently serving a 23-year sentence in federal prison.

Court documents and a October 15, 2004, Department of Justice press release reveal that Alamoudi, the president of the American Muslim Council, was arrested at Dulles Airport in September 2003 upon returning to the U.S after participating in a Libyan plot to assassinate the Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah. “Alamoudi participated in recruiting participants for this plot by introducing the Libyans to two Saudi dissidents in London and facilitating the transfer of hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash from the Libyans to those dissidents to finance the plot,” the release said.

According to the DOJ press release, Alamoudi, a naturalized citizen, pled guilty to three federal offenses:

· One count of violating the International Emergency Powers Act;

· One count of false statements made in his application for naturalization;

· A tax offense involving a long-term scheme to conceal from the IRS his financial transactions with Libya and his foreign bank accounts and to omit material information from the tax returns filed by his charities.

It is important to point out that Alamoudi’s ties to terrorist groups were no secret prior to his arrest.

Alamoudi spoke at an October 2000 rally in front of the White House in support of Hamas and Hezbollah during the period he was represented by Norquist’s firm, according to Senate lobbying disclosure records.. The “Rally Against Israeli Aggression” was sponsored by Norquist’s Islamic Free Market Institute, according to a September 2000 “Islamic Institute Friday Brief.” The Islamic Free Market Institute was created by Grover Norquist and operated out of his Americans for Tax Reform office in Washington, thanks to sizable start-up contributions from Alamoudi, according to a March 11, 2003, article in the St. Petersburg Times by Mary Jacoby.

I have seen video from the rally, where Alamoudi roared from the stage:

“I have been labeled by the media in New York to be a supporter of Hamas, anybody supports Hamas here?”



“…Hear that, Bill Clinton, we are all supporters of Hamas, Allahu Akbar.”

“I wish they added that I am also a supporter of Hezbollah. Anybody supports Hezbollah here?”



A few months after the Lafayette Park rally, Alamoudi was photographed in Beirut at a conference attended by representatives of the terror groups Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and al-Qaida, also according to the March 2003 St. Petersburg Times article.

In addition to Alamoudi’s outspoken support for Hamas and Hezbollah, he expressed private support for the 1994 terrorist attack against a synagogue in Buenos Aires, Argentina, which killed 85 people and injured hundreds, according to a December 17, 2003, article in The American Spectator by Shawn Macomber, who reported: “In a wiretapped conversation made public in the recent criminal complaint, he (Alamoudi) praises a 1994 bombing in Buenos Aires. ‘The Jewish Community Center. It is a worthy operation,’ Alamoudi tells an unidentified man, in Arabic. ‘I think that the attacks that are being executed by bin Laden and other Islamic groups are wrong, especially hitting the civilian targets. Many African Muslims have died and not a single American has died. I prefer to hit a Zionist target in America or Europe…I prefer honestly like what happened in Argentina.”

According to a June 11, 2003, Wall Street Journal article by reporters Tom Hamburger and Glenn Simpson, around 1999 Alamoudi sent his deputy at the American Muslim Council, Khaled Saffuri, to work directly for Mr. Norquist to establish the Islamic Free Market Institute – one of the groups that sponsored the October 2000 rally in Lafayette Park. The institute, chaired by Norquist and led by Saffuri, operated out of the Americans for Tax Reform offices here in Washington, according to the March 2003 article in the St. Petersburg Times.

The Senate Indian Affairs Committee report revealed that Saffuri was closely tied to Mr. Norquist and the Abramoff scandal and received money from Abramoff and a front group, the American International Center (AIC), to partner with Abramoff’s firm Greenberg Traurig on his “Malaysian-related interests and issues.”

Mr. Norquist also associated with terror financier Sami Al-Arian, according to Mary Jacoby’s reporting in March 2003, in the St. Petersburg Times. Al-Arian pled guilty in 2006 “to a charge of conspiring to provide services to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), a specially designated terrorist organization, in violation of U.S. law,” and is under house arrests, according to a Department of Justice press release. The Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s “paramilitary wing – the al-Quds Brigades – has conducted numerous attacks, including large-scale suicide bombings,” according to the National Counterterrorism Center,

Who is Sami al-Arian? An October 2003 federal affidavit noted that Al-Arian had longstanding connections to associates of al Qaeda. According to the affidavit, “Sheik Rahman (the “Blind Sheik”) visited Al-Arian at his residence in Tampa and spoke at his mosque.” Rahman is currently serving a life sentence in U.S. prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center attack and additional terror plots. The federal affidavit also disclosed Al-Arian’s ties with Alamoudi.

Al-Arian’s relationship with Mr. Norquist appears to have spanned several years. Prior to his arrest in February 2003, Sami Al-Arian visited Norquist’s office in Washington for a meeting, also reported in the June 11, 2003, article in the Wall Street Journal. According to Continetti, Mr. Al-Arian also “cc’d Norquist on an e-mail he sent to the Wall Street Journal protesting an editorial that had pointed out his terrorist connections.”

Mr. Norquist himself served as a key facilitator between Al-Arian, Alamoudi and the White House, according to Mary Jacoby’s reporting in March 2003 in The St. Petersburg Times. She reported that “In June 2001, Al-Arian was among the members of the American Muslim Council invited to the White House complex . . . The next month, the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedom – a civil liberties group headed by Al-Arian – gave Norquist an award for his work to abolish the use of secret intelligence evidence in terrorism cases.”
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:54 AM
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8. Quite a post
I'm not sure what to make of that info. Surprising to say the least.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 04:20 AM
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9. makes that whole "drowning the government"


comment seem a trifle more devious, no?






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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:55 AM
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14. As If, Sir, He Sought Foreign Hands To Hold It Under...?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:57 PM
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15. Let's just say
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 03:58 PM by Tsiyu
I haven't forgotten about Sibel Edmonds or what they did to Valerie Plame.



Mademoiselle ;)


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 06:48 AM
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12. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 06:57 AM by SpiralHawk
"Yes siree. No evidence. Just as the man said. Just as there is no evidence I ignored over 60 warnings before 9/11, and no evidence that I did not act like a courageous, competent, and appropriately sedated Republicon hero champion leader cheerleader after the, um, planes struck the towers and shit like that. Ummm hmmm. Smirk."

- xCommander AWOL (R)

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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 05:35 AM
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10. Lee Atwater would be proud.
imagine that, being bit by the snake you saved.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 06:35 AM
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11. Oh, those wacky RepubliFundies
They really do deserve their own Homeland.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 06:53 AM
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13. Ha! this is funny.. this must really tangle the tiny brains of GOPer/teabaggers.
Norquist must be a liberal plant!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:59 PM
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16. Does she appear on Fox?
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