Up with Chris Hayes -Princeton students shout at OWS on their way to DC

[malaise]

Get a job...we are the 1%
Fuck you Princeton students

[Fumesucker]

1. This should go well...

:popcorn:

[Graybeard]

2. Gary Johnson the unknown candidate.

Virtually ignored by the media since he announced his candidacy,Johnson is taking advantage of all of the face time he's getting on this show by dominating the discourse and interrupting everybody. Oh well, I guess the guy is entitled.:evilgrin:

[LiberalEsto]

3. The Princeton pigs can go fuck themselves

I am not surprised at their attitude.

[Octafish]

4. For 95-percent of them, they probably are.

As the sons and daughters of privilege, they've been told they're "special" and "gifted" and born to lord it over the rest of us their entire private schooled lives. They're true repukes.

[NOMOREDRUGWAR]

5. Nice generalizations

Read this: http://blogs.princeton.edu/paw/2011/10/princeton_stude.html

"Emily VanderLinden ’13 showed up at “The People’s Kitchen” in Zuccotti Park on Oct. 16 intent on helping out with the community effort, which was set up to provide food for participants in the Occupy Wall Street protests. But VanderLinden came away with more than just a dishwashing experience: She also found herself pleasantly surprised by the spectrum of people she met in the kitchen who were involved with the movement.

wb_campus.jpg“I got engaged with people in a really unique way,” she said, describing conversations with both the homeless and the affluent in the communal kitchen. “A little piece of everyone can support this movement, to be honest.”

VanderLinden is one of several Princeton students who have been making their way to New York City on recent weekends to check out Occupy Wall Street, a series of demonstrations in the financial district that started on Sept. 17, 2011. Demonstrators are largely protesting corporate greed, social and economic inequality, and corporate influence over the government – and several students from the University are joining in, whether as supporters or curious observers.


Brandon Davis ’13 said he headed to the city because he was interested in what was going on and “wanted to see what it was all about.” He noted that the high energy of the protests was particularly memorable.

“I went to a couple of Obama rallies,” he said. “But even that didn’t really come close to the passion, unity, and energy that was at Zuccotti Park.”

Then have yourself a cup of something.

[Octafish]

6. Thank you. You're right. It's probably less than 95-percent.

Maybe it's only 5-percent. Maybe just 1-percent. More data is needed. Go Princeton.

http://press.princeton.edu/blog/2011/06/23/author-shamus-khans-take-on-privledge-praised-in-saint-pauls-alumni-magazine/

[NOMOREDRUGWAR]

7. I don't think you realize how much Ivy League institutions have changed demographically

since the 1950s. I graduated college in 2007 (started college at age 22), and I'd estimate that 35-40% of my class at Dartmouth came from middle-class families. All of the Ivies offer generous financial aid and have need-blind admissions. I went to school for half-tuition, and many of my classmates received more generous aid packages.

The caliber of student has increased as well. Sure, you still have the legacy admits, but there's no question that the average Ivy student is far more academically qualified today than they were in 1955, and also far more likely to belong to a group other than upper -class WASP.

[Octafish]

8. Thank you. Here's where I'm coming from...

...the idea that a certain class is privileged to rule and lord it over us is un-American. Yet, one small group of people have managed to use their old school ties to, eh, manage events in their favor.

Dulles Papers Reveal CIA Consulting Network

EXCERPT...

Perhaps the most extraordinary of the Papers' contents are letters and memos which expose Strayer as a small tip of a consultant iceberg. Filed under "Princeton Consultants" and cross-referenced under "Central Intelligence Agency: Panel of Consultants (Princeton Consultants)," letters from 1961 to 1969 sketch the outlines of one of the central programs of professors covertly consulting for the CIA.

The only year during which the entire membership of the Consultants is known is 1961, when all of them signed a note of "respect and affection" to Dulles that accompanied a gift.

At that time, the panel consisted of nine senior professors: the late T. Cuyler Young (Near Eastern Studies, Princeton); Klaus Knorr (Strategic Studies, Princeton); Joseph Strayer (Medieval History, Princeton); Cyril Black (Soviet Studies, Princeton); the late William Langer (History, Harvard); Robert Bowie (International Studies, Harvard); Max Millikan (International Studies, M.I.T.); Raymond Sontag (European History, Berkeley); and Calvin Hoover (Soviet Economics, Duke); and four others: Philip E. Mosely (Director of Studies, Council on Foreign Relations); Hamilton Fish Armstrong (editor, ForeIgn Affairs); Caryl P. Haskins (Director, Carnegie Institution); and Harold F. Linder (Assistant Secretary of State and Chairman of the Export-Import Bank).

Two later members of the Princeton Consultants are disclosed in correspondence to Dulles and his wife Clover: Princeton History professor James Billington (January 15, 1965 letter from Dulles to Billington) and M.I.T. China expert Lucian Pye (January 30, 1969 letter from Pye to Clover Dulles).

Both Dulles and Sherman Kent, Chairman of the CIA's Board of National Estimates, also attended the Consultants meetings. The meetings were held in two-day blocks, four times a year. Many of the meeting dates coincided with Princeton trustee meetings, probably for Dulles's convenience. This appears to have created some problems for Dulles, however, whose personal schedule for the third week in October 1962 shows several time conflicts between his normal trustee duties and activities he pencilled in his own handwriting under the heading "CIA Consultants."

The precise year that the Princeton Consultants began operations is unclear from the Dulles Papers. A "Princeton Consultants" file first appears in 1961. However, in thirteen identical letters dated October 21 of that year, Dulles thanks each of the Consultants "for what you have contributed to our work here over the years." This language indicates that the group's existence reaches back well into the 1950s. Black confirmed that his membership in the Consultants dates from around 1957.

CONTINUED...

And why all this Ivy League elite stuff really gets to me when I see evidence for feelings of, eh, superiority exhibited by a few:

A fact curiously missing from American history and any mention of the Warren Commission

In my 54 years, I've yet to meet a person who attended college who heard that mentioned in their U.S. history class.

[LiberalEsto]

9. My daughter dated someone at Princeton

when she was at Rutgers a few years ago.
He was one of her high school classmates and got in because of his grades and test scores.
He told my daughter he was disgusted by how incredibly snobbish the majority of students were. Totally clueless about social issues.

I attended Rutgers in the 60s-70s and the kids I met from Princeton didn't seem quite that bad. A lot of them organized against the Vietnam War just like we did at Rutgers, and supported other progressive causes.

But in recent years, colleges have become institutions for grooming the young upper-class kids to remain in the 1%. Middle class kids who do make it into 4-year colleges are often drowning in student loans. Mine are.

[NOMOREDRUGWAR]

10. Like I said,

I had half my tuition paid for me. Try getting that deal and an Ivy league-equivalent education anywhere else.