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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 08:46 AM
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super collision: will obama and capitol dems betray the middle class, seniors and poor
http://www.nationofchange.org/super-collusion-will-obama-and-capitol-dems-betray-middle-class-seniors-and-poor-1321110589

Two new re­ports sug­gest that the Pres­i­dent and Con­gres­sional De­moc­rats are about to be­tray every­thing De­moc­rats once stood for. Under pres­sure from Barack Obama, De­moc­rats on the "Super Com­mit­tee" have sketched out an ap­palling "com­pro­mise" pro­posal that would al­most cer­tainly doom both their 2012 elec­toral chances and his own.

They'd have it com­ing. Their draft plan that lit­er­ally takes crutches away from poor peo­ple to pro­tect tax breaks for the wealthy.

Un­for­tu­nately, mid­dle class and im­pov­er­ished Amer­i­cans would suf­fer much more than they would. Ca­reer politi­cians can al­ways look for­ward to com­fort­able sinecures from the wealthy in­ter­ests who will ben­e­fit from their pro­posal. But the rest of us would once again be pun­ished for the ex­cesses of the rich, then left to the un­ten­der mer­cies of our new Re­pub­li­can lead­ers.

That, and not the fate of a Pres­i­dent or a party, would be the real tragedy.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 08:50 AM
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1. Honest people know the answer to that already. It's why OWS isn't an Obama rally.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:07 AM
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7. +100!
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:21 AM
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15. Damn right. nt
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 08:52 AM
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2. Is there any doubt, Yes
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 08:55 AM
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3. Heh.. The Supercorrupting Supercolluder.. n/t
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:06 AM
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6. Eurica! It has finally been given a name that should stick
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 08:55 AM
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4. The question
answers itself.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:00 AM
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5. Chains you can believe in! (NT)
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:48 PM
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27. LOL!
That was a good one, I'm stealing it :-)
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 05:31 PM
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29. With my complements! (NT)
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:07 AM
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8. MAke no mistake....it would be betrayal !
Any extension of the Bush tax cut would be a critical mistake for politicans. Talking is one thing, but doing it would be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The backlash would be ........historic! I'm talking revolt on a scale this country has not seen in a couple of hundred years. And, it would be ugly. Very ugly. If our politicans do not understand that, may God have mercy on them.....and us.

A movement has been sparked already. The people are tired of eating cake. When the government cannot make things right, the people can...and will. And I will be one of them.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:13 AM
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9. Kr for reality. nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:13 AM
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10. Obama is getting cocky just looking at his potential 2012 opponents
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 09:13 AM by tularetom
So he probably feels free to let his inner republican have some fun.

But they either have been paying no attention to what's been going on for the last couple of months or they are just mind blowingly corrupt.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 02:23 PM
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21. "His inner republican..."
:evilgrin:
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:15 AM
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11. They already have.
eom
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:38 AM
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18. So true.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 09:27 AM
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12. Lit­er­ally takes crutches away from poor peo­ple to pro­tect tax breaks for the wealthy.
"This proposal, along with the whole Super Committee process, is a dying gasp from the failed "bipartisan" economic consensus that brought us deregulation, the financial crisis, rampant banker criminality, and inequitable distribution of wealth. It must be discarded with all the other refuse of that cynical, tragically, failed experiment."


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 02:52 PM
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:16 AM
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13. I thought that happened already, about, oh, I'd say just about
three years ago.

You can remember back that far, can't you? It was the day Obama's transition team gained Summers and Rubin and Geithner.

I thought you'd remember.




TG
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 01:38 PM
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20. Duh, NOW I remember
Good one Tansy. :thumbsup:
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:14 PM
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37. yeppers, that was certainly the handwriting on the wall.
It's just taken us varying amounts of time to wake up and see it.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:34 AM
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16. The Super-Committee are all a bunch of traitors.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:38 AM
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17. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is already greasing the skids to make this happen -
she's on MTP as I type this, talking about the need to "make cuts that will be very painful, but unfortunately necessary in this time of economic crisis". :banghead:

K&R.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:46 AM
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19. +1
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 02:31 PM
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23. Bet it won't be painful for her...
The old this will hurt me more it will hurt you bs.

:puke:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 02:40 PM
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24. I saw that
it made me furious.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 06:09 PM
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32. painful only to the poor and the middle class
gawd
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 02:25 PM
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22. 'There comes a time when eth­i­cal peo­ple have to take a stand, and this is one of them.'
Hat tip to DUer xchrom for finding this piece.



Failure by the leadership to address these vital issues that are critical to the recovery of our country is why growing numbers of people are out in the streets.



(Photo via Nation of Change)



Super Collusion: Will Obama and Capital Dems Betray the Middle Class, Seniors, and the Poor?

By RJ Eskow
November 13, 2011


The Bot­tom Line

.....

Today's deficits were caused by wild and reck­less tax cuts for the wealth­i­est among us, along with the cost of two un­nec­es­sary wars and the con­se­quences of bank greed and reck­less­ness. It's a ter­ri­ble mis­take to ask the Amer­i­cans who were wounded most by deficit-caus­ing be­hav­ior to carry so much of the cost of fix­ing it. And to pro­pose cuts to Medicare and Med­ic­aid sim­ply to pre­serve low tax rates for the wealthy is noth­ing less than a moral ob­scen­ity.

In these dark times, here are the Pres­i­dent's and Con­gress's real and un­shirk­able re­spon­si­bil­i­ties: To help 25 mil­lion un- or un­der-em­ployed Amer­i­cans get back on their feet. To stop Wall Street loot­ers from mak­ing off with our na­tion's riches. To re­store tax fair­ness and eco­nomic jus­tice. To in­vest in our crum­bling in­fra­struc­ture. To cre­ate eco­nomic growth that will fix deficits in the long term. To en­sure re­tire­ment se­cu­rity for all Amer­i­cans. To en­sure gen­uine ac­cess to health care for all. And to stem the grow­ing tide of poverty.

Maybe these pro­fes­sional politi­cians are con­sti­tu­tion­ally hard­wired to com­pro­mise and deal, and are there­fore in­ca­pable of rec­og­niz­ing when doing so is to re­in­force great wrongs. But if they can't see it, we'll have to show them - with phone calls, emails, and a very clear mes­sage about the con­se­quences they'll face next No­vem­ber if they go through with this plan.

This pro­posal, along with the whole Super Com­mit­tee process, is a dying gasp from the failed "bi­par­ti­san" eco­nomic con­sen­sus that brought us dereg­u­la­tion, the fi­nan­cial cri­sis, ram­pant banker crim­i­nal­ity, and in­equitable dis­tri­b­u­tion of wealth. It must be dis­carded with all the other refuse of that cyn­i­cal, trag­i­cal, failed ex­per­i­ment.

Politi­cians who don't un­der­stand that may wind up being dis­carded too.




We are facing a turning point in our history.




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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:14 PM
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26. Magic 8 ball says
Yes.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 04:29 PM
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28. Three guesses! n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 05:33 PM
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30. In other news...water is wet
And why OWS will continue to grow.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 06:03 PM
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31. Its the thing I've been hoping doesn't happen,
And it will be the death of the party as far as I'm concerned. I'll not support the party if this happens.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:57 PM
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36. I feel the same. And primarying Obama would do nothing with the lame Dem party we have now.
We need a third party and now is the perfect time for it with OWS in full force.

If someone ran on all the issues that the Occupy movement stands for they would win in a landslide against both Obama and Romney.

So come on, which one of you will it be? ;)

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 06:13 PM
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33. they've been doing that since day one
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:21 PM
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34. Of course they will try-they already do now.
These people don't care about you. They don't care about your neighbor. They care about themselves, their skin, their interests. Not yours.

That's what Washington is-an exercise in self service for a lot of money.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 10:27 PM
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35. none of those mentioned will help us..they will continue down the path which has forced us to be in
streets..that is why we are in the streets..none of them will change a friggin thing to help you..take that to the bank
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 06:25 AM
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38. DINOs always think that liberals will always vote for Democrats, because they have no choice.
They forget that there are more than 2 options on voting day.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 06:27 AM
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39. When the 1% has all the $$, the politicians will swap the 99%'s votes for the 1%'s money every time.
Edited on Mon Nov-14-11 06:30 AM by WinkyDink
It isn't about improving America any more. It is about improving the personal fortunes of those elected.
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