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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 01:38 PM
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GOP and TP on Obama’s foreign policy “successes”
As I pointed out just yesterday, many Democrats not only passively acquiesce to Obama’s continuation of core Bush/Cheney Terrorism policies, but enthusiastically cheer it as proof that they, too, can be Tough and Strong (manly virtues demonstrated by how many human beings their leader kills from afar). So here you have Think Progress heaping praise on Obama for seizing what is literally the most radical power a President can seize: the power to target — in total secrecy and with no checks or due process — their fellow citizens for execution: specifically, assassination-by-CIA. Worse, to justify what Obama has done, TP spouts a blatant falsehood (that Awlaki was “a senior Al Qaeda leader”), even though actual Yemen experts have mocked that claim mercilessly and the administration itself refuses to reveal any evidence whatsoever about what it did or why. Revealingly, TP trumpets the claim that “Al Awlaki’s death brought a damaging blow to Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)”; its link to justify that claim goes to the blog operated by the right-wing Heritage Foundation: that, quite understandably, is who TP must now cite as authoritative to justify Obama’s foreign policy conduct.

But what’s most notable here is how inaccurate TP’s prediction was: it turned out to be completely wrong that the Awlaki assassination was something “you won’t hear at tonight’s GOP foreign policy debate.” In fact, we heard a lot about it — from the GOP candidates who heaped as much praise on Obama as TP did for murdering this American citizen. Indeed, among the most vocal cheers of the night from the GOP South Carolina crowd — second only to its vocal swooning for the virtues of waterboarding — was when their right-wing candidates hailed Obama’s decision to kill Awlaki.

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Here we have Think Progress celebrating Obama’s subservience to Netanyahu and the Israeli Government as a grand “success.” Obama, you see, has “strengthened America’s military and intelligence relationship with Israel,” has given unprecedented “support and cooperation” to Israeli actions (“even better than under President Bush”), and has “markedly increased” U.S. military aid to Israel — and these are all deemed Good Things by this progressive site. Here, again, there is extreme common ground with the Evil GOP, most of whom demanded last night that the U.S. get even closer to Israel (Think Progress is right that, minor rhetorical deviations on the settlement issue aside, Obama has been exactly as subservient to Israel — and exactly as hostile to Palestinians — as the GOP demands). That they consider this approach to Israel a “success” is telling indeed.

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But the list of foreign policy “successes” compiled by Think Progress — echoed in many progressive precincts — is grounded in little more than the premise that “success” is defined as: that which Barack Obama does, even when what he does prompted years of progressive anger when done by George Bush. As Ali Abunimah perfectly put it last night: “all the questions in the GOP debate about which countries these sinister clowns would bomb, invade, subvert, occupy, etc etc etc.” That’s true, but that is basically what American “foreign policy” generally entails (on Meet the Press this morning, Michele Bachmann said of Obama’s drone policies: “Those are good things that I think all Americans would agree with”). That D.C.’s leading Democratic Party think tank celebrates so many of those acts, and particularly thinks exactly like Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann on one of the most controversial civil liberties issues of our generation — the power of the President to secretly target even American citizens for assassination — speaks volumes about the true legacy of the Obama presidency in these areas.
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/13/gop_and_tp_on_obamas_foreign_policy_successes/singleton/
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 01:41 PM
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1. "Obama’s subservience to Netanyahu and the Israeli Government"
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 01:44 PM by bigtree
pure bullshit . . .Greenwald is pretty 'telling' on that issue himself.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 02:30 PM
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2. You can't be serious
Greenwald has never been an Israeli cheerleader. Has Netanyahu failed to get anything he wants?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 03:51 PM
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3. let's see
. . . let's start with the fact that Israel is a strong American ally, in the region and in the world. Is there ANY American ally as important as Israel is to the U.S. that we've denied cooperation and assistance? Is our nation's longstanding commitment to Israel somehow different than any of those other allies? What has Israel done to not deserve our cooperation and assistance, in your view?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 04:13 PM
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4. So you retract your comment against Greenwald and
you admit that Netanyahu gets whatever he wants from the US. That about sums it up.

"What has Israel done to not deserve our cooperation and assistance, in your view?" Built illegal settlements on Palestinian land. Occupied land it has NEVER had a right to colonize. Tortured and kill innocent people. That's for starters.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 05:08 PM
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5. so, no fan of Israel you
got it.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:37 AM
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6. I'm a fan of human rights nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:58 AM
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7. so is the President
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:59 PM
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8. Not on this issue nt
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