our boys and girls: "Will I be pretty." ...... strong, physical, intimidate, tough.

[seabeyond]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6wJl37N9C0

there was a thread on Michelle Obama, in hawaii. i love the pictures. my immediately thought was, she has people smiling and comfortable in all her interactions. that is such a gift. as i read the thread, the exclamations were... she is gorgeous. she looks incredible. all of who Michelle Obama is, what she does, i alwyas hear her reduced to her looks. as if that matters. as if what is truly important and where she shines would be diminished if she was ugly.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3exzMPT4nGI

sigh... we can do better for our boys.

[HopeHoops]

1. The GOP women aren't even remotely attractive, but even if they were foxes, she's got them beat.

Not because of her looks at all, although I agree that she's quite attractive, but rather because she CARES ABOUT OUR CHILDREN. That puts her way ahead of the pack, and even Hillary can't touch her there.

[seabeyond]

2. damn you are good. you made my point. it is not about a competition on repug women attractiveness

vs dem women attractiveness

geeeez, lol. HH, could you have done it any better. lol

:hug:

[HopeHoops]

3. Well the GOP women do seem to be addicted to Botox, but even if they weren't it is still where their

hearts are that matters. Michelle Obama could be fat and fucking ugly as sin, but she cares about the future of our country, SHOWS that she cares about it, and that future is our children. THAT is what matters.

[alphafemale]

4. Dang you flashbacked a memory for me. lol!

I was singing "Kay sera sera" into the hairbrush microphone.

Sweet mama saw fit to grab me by the shoulders and scream in my face "YOU WILL NEVER BE PRETTY!"

Ok Ma...

As if our relationship status wasn't already clearly defined by the time I was 4.

[seabeyond]

7. wow. another wow. that is sad. i on the other hand, had parents that praised in what i did

what i accomplished. who i was.

i am so sorry about your flashback. isnt this woman amazing. you just feel the poison come out of her.

[alphafemale]

12. I'm fine thanks.

My mother was beyond toxic. But I had other amazing people in my life.

[seabeyond]

13. my niece was in that situation. she is 19. i asked her the other day if she has been

in touch with her mom. trying to understand not having a need to be in touch, reconcile, ect.... she doesnt talk about her and hasnt for 8 yrs. thought maybe it was time.

she only did once, to tell her mom to pull the websites she had put up, telling my nieces stories. (i was so mad when i found them on the web).

i asked niece if she missed having a mother. she told me no. she has women in her life. me, being one.

she does seem to be in a good place. so i am trusting her on that. hoping she knows, i am here, if she needs.

but she is amazing in putting it in the proper place. i can't really see she is lacking.

[rurallib]

5. We met Michelle on the campaign trail in 2008.

It was a hot muggy day in August. I never really got much of a real look at her. But her speech was incredible.
Afterwards we were lucky enough to have a coke with her. What a wonderful, down home person.
She wasn't overly ugly or highly showy, so I didn't pay a lot of attention to how she looked.
But geez, what a nice woman.

May be the hate that the palins/bachmanns of the world project because there is an aura about them that drives me away.

[seabeyond]

16. good to here.

this is the feel i get from her in the pictures we see. all she has accomplished, cringe when we talk about her looks.

[seabeyond]

17. hear. hate when i do that and go past edit time. nt

[Fumesucker]

6. I'm at best an average looking man to put it charitably..

I'm still not sure how it happened but I ended up married for thirty years to a woman who was a part time model into her late thirties.

It was always interesting to me to see how differently people treated me after they met my ex, I got a lot more respect because I was married to an attractive woman. You would think that would be true of men to an extent but women also changed their attitudes to me when they found out what my wife looked like.

Another thing I found interesting was the jealousy that an attractive woman generates among some other women, not all by any means but there were more than a few that had the knives out for my ex despite the fact she was one of the friendliest people you would ever want to meet.

Just my $20.. used to be .02..

[seabeyond]

9. society and to an extent, men work really hard creating the competition in females on their looks.

when all the worth in a woman is in her looks, why would it be anything less? how could it be anything else but a competition?

i am not at all shifting the blame for this, though. us women have got to get beyond the social requirement that all of who we are is our looks. and until then, we won't be able to get beyond that competition.

us women are the only ones that can address this.

[NYC_SKP]

8. In defense of those reactions, if it was the thread I'm thinking about, it was a picture thread.

So, not surprisingly, reactions related to the visual aspect.

I see a strong, confident, and very fit woman, and seemingly very happy and whole.

I don't think that is a shallow thing to see.

--- But I do catch your drift, and I agree.

:thumbsup:



:patriot:

[seabeyond]

10. yes. i saw all that, too. and before reding replies my number on impression was who she was

what she was able to do with people.

not, that she was gorgeous. and she is. but that is not what had my attention. it was HER that impressed me. visually. what i saw in the pictures.

and thanks for the picture. it is an awesome in the comfort of who she is.

[applegrove]

22. She's just stunning.

[Scuba]

11. Neither Stephen Hawking nor I are particularly handsome...

... neither was Albert Einstein.

[seabeyond]

14. the guy does not have that particular pressure. BUT... are you tough, independent, intimidating

strong.

[Scuba]

15. I sure hope I'm not intimidating. n/t

[seabeyond]

18. come on

fess up. sigh... you really didnt watch the videos, did you, lol.

they were realitvely short. i thought....

i dont think anyone did.

but i liked them

i hope you are not intimidating either. though, i had an employee tell me i scared her. that i was intimidating. was a wtf???? had never thought of myself in tht manner. so i pay attention to that, now.

[Scuba]

19. I had an employee explain to me that EVERYONE was scared of me...

... because I was the boss and could ruin their lives on a whim.


I understood exactly what she meant. I had a boss too.

I was new there, and it took a year before people came to understand that I had their best interests at heart. Fact is, I wasn't intimidating, it was the power in my job title that was.

[seabeyond]

20. i never felt that way in all my employments. i was lucky in that my bosses

in all the places i worked were pretty good men (i had no female boss). but honestly, i never felt that. interesting

[Scuba]

21. I worked in a couple real nasty organizations. n/t