Sooo...when is that "fix" to the healthcare act coming?

[laconicsax]

I seem to remember that there was a rallying cry of 'pass it now, fix it later.'

How's that fix coming?

[valerief]

1. It's stored in the Bullshit Queue now. nt

[neverforget]

6. and that seems to have an infinite capacity

[valerief]

8. It has to. It's the ONLY queue. nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

2. Are you serious?

We couldn't fix it now if we wanted to. Not with the Republicans controlling the House.

We need to elect more progressives.

[laconicsax]

3. I'm just curious...

So many people were adamant that it would definitely be fixed later, and that was why it was fine to pass it in its then-current state.

I'm just wondering where that 'definitely going to happen' fix is.

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[AndyTiedye]

4. The Supreme Court is Going to "Fix" It

They will probably keep the individual mandates because the insurance companies like that part,
but they will do away with the part that actually requires the insurance companies to pay when you're sick.

[valerief]

9. Perfect! That way the insurance cos. get a steady stream of income and get to keep it, too.

That helps humanity. 1% of humanity. The sociopathic cross-section of humanity.

[walerosco]

7. I think they are still

working on the NAFTA fix :) Ofc there isnt going to be a fix. If you cannot fix(public option) it with the kind of majority we had in 2009 then it never going to happen. I just wish they will give poor people a chance to opt out and not have to pay the penalty for not having insurance

[laconicsax]

15. Damn! I forgot about the NAFTA fix.

[Kat45]

17. In Mass., poor people are exempt from buying it.

I don't know what the income level is, but last year I barely worked and had such little income that I would not have been penalized if I didn't have insurance. But I did have insurance that I got through the 'connector,' through the state. When I had a part-time job with low income, I had to pay something like $77 a month. When I had no income, I had no premium. The federal plan is supposedly based on the Mass. plan, so perhaps it will be like that too.

[walerosco]

18. lets hope you are right about this

[eridani]

21. Big whoop. The result has been a drop in the % of bankruptcies due fo

--health care costs from 59% to 50%. You'll be OK unless you actually get sick, in which case you are fucked. But the odds are with you--you are likely to stay in that 85% of peoplw who account for only 15% of health care costs.

[Stinky The Clown]

10. They's fixin' ta fix it right quick, now

[Motown_Johnny]

11. Can we have it get through the legal challenges and actually take effect first?

Seriously

[unblock]

16. common sense is wasted in a thread like this.

an o.p. like this is not looking for an actual answer.
it's just looking to score snark points.

[tiny elvis]

12. thepoorman.net classic 8/3/2005

Phase II is where you go fuck yourself
Posted by The Editors under Uncategorized


Sen. Diane Feinstein writes letters:

I am increasingly dismayed by the delay in completing the Committee’s ‘Phase II’ investigation into intelligence prior to the Iraq War. As you know, the Committee voted unanimously on February 12, 2004 to investigate five questions on pre-war intelligence, including use of intelligence by policymakers. Nearly eighteen months later, much work remains before these questions will be satisfactorily answered.

In addition to the terms set out early last year, the Committee should address the significant issues raised by the so-called ‘Downing Street Memo’ – whether the ‘intelligence and facts were being fixed’ to support the policy of using military force against Iraq. This claim raises serious questions about the use of intelligence, and whether intelligence resources were unduly focused away from other priorities in order to provide additional – and as we have found, flawed – intelligence on Iraq.

It would also be my preference to include in Phase II any new revelations concerning the CURVEBALL case since the Committee’s first Iraq report.

It is important that the Committee complete its study of these questions, both to fulfill our oversight responsibilities and because there is no other body capable of doing this work. The Committee’s report assessing the intelligence on Iraq ’s WMD capabilities was of outstanding quality and demonstrated both our ability to inform the American public and uncover needs for intelligence reform. I urge you to take whatever steps are needed to complete the Phase II investigation and produce a report as comprehensive and thoughtful as the first phase of the Committee’s investigation. I stand ready to participate in this investigation in any way possible.
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Yeah. Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there’s not going to be a Phase II report. There was no Earthly reason not to handle all the intel issues in one report, but you agreed, for reasons that remain unclear to me, to give Bush the political cover he wanted and not force any questions about just what the fuck was up with all that aluminum tube bullshit. There were too many issues to deal with? Give me a break. There appeared to be ample time for endless, pointless panty-sniffing around Joseph Wilson - for some reason, the issue of whether some guy who wrote a critical editorial is a bad person could get addressed right away. Were we lied into war? That question can wait forever, apparently. Bullshit.

Democrats, clue in: “I’ll gladly pay you Thursday for a hamburger today” is not a good deal. Hamburger stands don’t work that way, because it’s not a good deal. So stop agreeing to it. Fucking figure it out. If the Republicans wanted two reports, let Phase I deal with the issues of substance, and let Phase II be an in-depth Congressional Intelligence report exclusively devoted to concerns that Joseph Wilson is a bad man who squeezes the toothpaste tube from the middle or whatever. You got chumped, chumps. They chumped you chumps again.

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. LOL. They were worried we'd let perfect get in the way of crappy for us; milk and honey for the 1%

MORE milk and honey.

I seem to remember someone saying that it needed to be passed so we could find out what was in it. What was her name again?

Man oh man what a piece of wool they pulled over our eyes.

[woo me with science]

19. There was never any intention to fix it.

They have mandated that EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN CITIZEN to purchase an outrageously overpriced corporate product. Think about that. What a coup.

And they managed to do it by pitting us against each other to get us to accept what neither side would have tolerated had it been proposed this way at the outset.

The corporate mandate was the goal all along. That was the gift to the corporate insurance companies.

[area51]

20. +1

Unlike what some people think, the GOP '93 plan will not get us to single-payer. It only leads to slavery to the serial-killer insurance cartels.

"Subtitle F: Universal Coverage - Requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program by January 1, 2005."

[sendero]

22. +1000

[Dorian Gray]

24. You know

I thought that was a problem back when it was passed, but it seems like such an obvious slap in the face to those of us who truly wanted to reform the health care industry in this country.

[mdmc]

23. TSCOTUS will fix it