Three pit bulls that slaughtered 42 goats captured

[Liberal_in_LA]

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Three pit bulls that slaughtered 42 goats captured

Three of four pit bulls that fatally mauled dozens of goats in the Lake Los Angeles area have been captured by county animal-control personnel, officials said Tuesday evening.

Forty-two goats were slaughtered after the dogs descended on the property at 164th Street and Avenue Q Monday, county officials said.

"It appears that the pack mentality set in in this particular incident," said Aaron Reyes, deputy director of the Los Angeles County Department of Animal Care and Control.

Reyes said the dogs were captured Monday night. "They just fed off one another's energy and mischievous behavior," he told The Times.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/pit-bulls-kill-goats.html

[Vincardog]

1. When every you have 3 or more dogs - you have a PACK

[TorchTheWitch]

4. whenever you have one dog and anther creature they attach to it's a pack

Pack mentality is a dog's genetically ingrained social structure. It always exists. It exists when they are completely alone. Humans are the same as humans have a social structure that is extremely similar. We humans seek out joining a pack or forming one even if it is pack of two and not necessarily with another human as well. There doesn't need to be three or more people to be a pack (what we like to call family or circle of friends or loved ones) anymore than it is with dogs.

[Vincardog]

6. What is the name of YOUR kennel? A DOG PACK is not at all like a FAMILY Circle

[TorchTheWitch]

21. my family circle is me and my dog

To the dog me and him are his pack just as it has been with all my dogs. Why do you think dogs are protective of the family who owns or takes care of them and anyone else the dog defines as being included in that family circle like friends or neighbors of the family? This is true of all dogs. Humans identify their circle of loved ones by certain names but it's all a pack to a dog. That's the point. That is how DOGS instinctively behave. Us humans instinctively behave in an extremely similar social manner. What the hell difference does it make what words are used? To dogs the words don't mean jack shit anyway.

[Vincardog]

22. IF you think that your loving family pet acts the same as dog pack you have never seen a dog pack

[Taverner]

2. That's dogs

A pack of chihuahuas would do the same thing, if there were enough of them.

[Marrah_G]

3. that's messed up

They had to have been doing it for fun and not for food...

[Vincardog]

7. Dogs do some messed up shit. You will not see Coyotes killing 40 sheep for fun

[Marrah_G]

8. yeah.... what a sad loss

I'm sure the dogs will be put down. The goats are already dead. All because humans were not taking care of their animals.

[dana_b]

12. yep - people are ultimately

responsible because they did not control these dogs. And the animals all have paid/will pay for it. :(

[Taverner]

9. Dogs have learned a lot from humans

[NeedleCast]

15. They're Dogs...

Not people.

[Marrah_G]

27. I know.... I just find it sad

They weren't killing for food, they were killing for fun. Wild canines don't generally do that. I was saying the dogs are messed up, I mean the situation is messed up. The dogs shouldn't have been running lose.

[formercia]

31. In Maine, it's against the Law to let your dog run loose.

Many pet owners have found out the hard way that loose dogs are fair game.

[NeedleCast]

34. Actually Some Animals Kill For Fun/Practice

At work, so not a lot of time for providing links but here's one that is informative and simple (despite stupid title): http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html

Short list of animals that kill for fun or non-food situations:

Ants - Very territorial. The only other organism on the planet that carries out war.

Cuckoo Birds - Lay eggs in other birds nests. Baby Cuckoo birds will try to push original nest owner species out of the nest.

Dolphins and Orca - Both have been observed killing for fun.

Several Species of Primates - Known to kill over territory. Also known to kill and eat baby chimps of their own tribes.

Just a few examples. The animal kingdom is a violent place. Expecting an animal of any type to display human characteristics isn't fair to the animal.

[Marrah_G]

39. I had never heard of a pack of wild coyotes or wolves killing an entire herd before.

I am not putting human traits on them. I was remarking that I thought it was very uncharacteristic of canines in the wild. Perhaps it's a normal thing, I just have never heard of it.

[FarCenter]

5. Which is why ranchers and farmers shoot stray dogs.

[WranglerRog]

29. No, most farmers and ranchers kill stray dogs

because they've been conditioned to and it's just easier......I raise sheep. I also have 21 dogs on the place I've taken in over the years. Hoarder? Hardly as I've found homes for over 2 dozen more. I live in the middle of Mark Twain forest and people have a tendency to abandon their dogs there thinking they can make it on their own. They can't. Life expectancy is about 18 months for an abandoned dog.

My rule is that if a dog makes it to my place it'll be cared for. I use a combination of discipline and tolerance to train a dog that the sheep are not their meal. It's not hard to do once you establish yourself as pack leader. As an example I had a Mountain Cur show up 3 years ago. Her first thought when she saw the sheep was yum yum. I kept her in the back yard and worked with her nightly for about a week with a leash and recall/training collar. The first time I took her down to the sheep on a leash she lunged at one of them. I put my knee in her back and forced her to the ground (have you ever seen one dog discipline another?) letting her know I could take her life right then. I let her up and about five minutes later she lunged again and I repeated the lesson. After that she learned the sheep were off limits. That dog now stays with my flock 24/7 except when I use her for hunting. 11 of my dogs (all former strays) stay with the flock on a full time basis. Guess what? I've never lost a sheep or lamb to a predator. I almost lost a ewe a year ago to a young cougar but the dogs ran it off before it caused too much damage. So, if you'll work with an animal, learn it's behavior almost all dogs can be trained to forgo their "pack mentality".

"If you get to thinking you're a man of some importance try bossing around someone else's dog." - Will Rogers

[beam me up scottie]

10. As much as I hate the suffering and death they caused I cannot hate those dogs.

The pictures of them are heartbreaking, they are in jail now and they don't know why.

I hope they can send them to Dog Town or somewhere else where they won't be a threat to others.

Killing creatures who don't understand why their instinctual behaviour is considered criminal is itself a crime.

[dana_b]

13. +l

the one in the middle looks a lot like my dog. I can't help but feel sad that these dogs didn't have responsible owners in their lives. The pit boss guy would be good with them.

[beam me up scottie]

30. This is why I can't bear going to shelters.

There are only a couple of no kill shelters where I live, so even though you can't see it, every cage has a ticking clock on it.

[redqueen]

14. +1

[Enrique]

26. goats are cute too

[beam me up scottie]

32. I know, so are baby deer.

I took care of an orphaned one this summer, it was attacked by dogs too.

There was another fawn that didn't make it, I watched it die in the field.

I still cannot hate those dogs.

[Blue_Tires]

11. I'm betting they are failed fighting dogs that the owner

just released in the wild...No ID, tags, or missing dog report, I'm guessing

[undeterred]

16. "failed fighting dogs"

:shrug:

So what does a successful fighting dog do to goats?

[Vincardog]

17. Failed fighting dogs are dead dogs

[ceile]

18. Article says they are in "good condition"

so I doubt they are fighting dogs.

[Blue_Tires]

20. What I meant was the 'serious' fight breeder looks for very specific traits

and knows early in the dog's training how competitive it would be in the ring...Perfectly healthy dogs are regularly shot/given away/allowed to run away...I guess I should have said 'rejected' fighting dogs

I'm not certain that's what happened here, but it would not surprise me

[get the red out]

23. Dog fighters are the ones who should be "put down"

Those SOBs are absolute vermin. They cause a lot of problems, heartless pieces of shit, lower than maggots.

[ceile]

19. 42 goats?!

How long were they on that property?

[jwirr]

24. It is not just pit bulls that attack farm animals. Even neighborhood

dogs have been know to kill poultry, goats and sheep. Sometimes it is wild dogs but often as not it is tame ones.

[Enrique]

25. that must have been a bloody scene

what does 42 goats that have been mauled to death by pit bulls look like? :scared:

[NeedleCast]

28. Gyro Explosion?

I'll get pita bread...

[Lone_Star_Dem]

33. We had a similar problem here a few years ago.

A pack of stray dogs (not just three, there were more than a dozen) were roaming the nights killing pets and small livestock. It didn't make the news because they weren't pits, but it was horrible.

Stories like this make me so angry. All those poor animals, including the dogs, are victims. The dogs owners are the ones responsible.

Please, spay and neuter your pets, and always be a watchful and responsible pet owner.

[NeedleCast]

35. It didn't make the news because they weren't pits,

I want to hug you for saying that.

[guitar man]

38. +1000

"It didn't make the news because they weren't pits"

:yourock:

[LiberalEsto]

36. Hey, Repukes do the same thing

"They just fed off one another's energy and mischievous behavior,"

[guitar man]

37. Not surprising

Staffies, bull and terriers, bulldogs and other various "bully breeds" that comprise the modern American Pit Bull Terrier's lineage were originally bred for old blood sports called "bull baiting" and "bear baiting" in England where the breeds originated.

When these dogs are not trained and properly cared for and socialized they will sometimes act out on the old instincts that were bred into the lines long ago, especially when they have the opportunity to form into a pack. Over the years I have seen pits as well as other dogs that presented no danger to humans, but were a real hand full to train and properly socialize to live around livestock.

[guitar man]

40. JHC on a pogo stick!!

I couldn't get the pics to open before but now that I've seen the dogs, it's pretty goddamn irresponsible reporting to write "3 pit bulls". The one on the far right...eh, maybe it's part APBT or staffie, but the one on the left and the one in the middle.... mutts. "3 dogs" would have been much more accurate reporting. :grr:

[Liberal_in_LA]

41. Thanks for the breed determination guitar man