High Comedy! Prop 8 Backers To Court: Releasing Trial Tapes Will Make Us “Look Bad”

[Maine-ah]

Victors in the Prop 8 Federal trial have labored mightily to make the proceedings in Federal Constitutional challenge as open and transparent to the public as possible. A video re-enactment of the full trial scripts has been produced and released , with an impression cast of Hollywood personalities behind it, including Marisa Tomei and Josh Lucas participating.

Oscar winning script writer Dustin Lance Black (Milk) produced the play "8" from trial transcripts. The production made it's debut in a charity fundraiser on Broadway , with a star-studded cast including Morgan Freeman, Ellen Barkin, Anthony Edwards, Bradley Whitford, John Lithgow, Cheyenne Jackson, Campbell Brown, Christine Lahti, Rob Reiner and Larry Kramer, among others. It is anticipated to go into workshops around the country.

Recreations only go so far, and Americans for Equal Rights continues to wrangle in the Federal Courts to get the actual videos of the trial released to the public. Monday, AFER argued before the Ninth Circuit:

"What transpires in the courtroom is public property," lawyers for same-sex couples said, quoting a 1947 U.S. Supreme Court ruling. They contended that Prop. 8's sponsors were using unsubstantiated claims of witness intimidation to mask their "true concern that the public will see for itself the utter lack of evidence or persuasive argument" in their case.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/16/1037073/-High-Comedy!-Prop-8-Backers-To%20Court:-Releasing-Trial-Tapes-Will-Make-Us-%E2%80%9CLook-Bad%E2%80%9D?via=siderec

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Prop 8 Trial re-enactment

http://www.youtube.com/user/MarriageTrial

[RKP5637]

1. K&R !!! n/t

[ieoeja]

2. Why Conservatives and Liberals will never see 100% eye-to-eye.

The Court: "I’m asking you to tell me how would harm opposite-sex marriages. ..."

Proponents' Lead Counsel Charles Cooper: "Your Honor, my answer is: I don’t know. I don’t know."

The Court: "What testimony in this case supports the proposition?"

Cooper: "...your Honor, you don't have to have evidence for this ..."

The Court: "I don't have to have evidence?"


The closest I ever come to pushing a Conservative to violence is when ... I agree with them. Because when I agree, I give reasons justifying that position. And that really, really angered them. I finally came to realize that our difference is far more than disagreements over policy. It is disagreement over right and wrong.

To them right and wrong are immutable facts. They don't have a problem with coming up with reasons why something is right. But when I am making an argument in favor of their position, I do so by questioning whether that position is right or not. And that questioning is wrong. Worse, it is evil.

[The Doctor.]

5. Oooo... you're dangerous.

I very much mean that.

The ability to 'force' introspection on someone is something even I am hesitant to exercise.

I like to lead them there if I can. You don't just make them drink... you waterboard their ass.

Much as I like it, you have to understand that you will rarely see positive results.

Still, I'm impressed.

[gratuitous]

6. How did Prop 8 proponents lose?

"Your Honor, you don't have to have evidence." That's been the sum and substance of the rationale for our military forays into Afghanistan and Iraq for 10 years. We've blown people to bits based on little more than the push of a button by somebody holding a drone remote control in his hand. And while I don't want to debate the depths of evil in unprovoked murder versus wanton denial of a person's very being, it seems that if the one action is wholly supportable in the absence of evidence, then the other one should be equally supportable.

[Clarknt67]

7. What to make of this wholly ridiculous comment?

"it seems that if the one action is wholly supportable in the absence of evidence, then the other one should be equally supportable."

Are you honestly arguing Bush's lying and obfuscation regarding the Afganistan & Iraq wars are "wholly supportable?"

REALLY?!

[gratuitous]

8. Welcome to DU

And yes, apparently, our wars and their continued prosecution in direct violation of our own laws and treaty obligations are wholly supportable, based on the total lack of even an investigation. And the crimes continue seamlessly under Bush's successor. In fact, in some ways they go on even more lawlessly and ruthlessly.

If those war crimes weren't wholly supportable, the Department of Justice would do something about it, don't you think?

[The Doctor.]

3. Hahahaha!

To be fair, the "Hollywood" version might not be 'kind' to the prop hate proponents. But at the same time, it would be exceedingly difficult to set them in a 'kind' light to begin with.

[ZombieHorde]

4. Recommended. nt