Just no hope for some people....Posted something from DU on FB:

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Sat Nov-19-11 07:38 PM
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Just no hope for some people....Posted something from DU on FB:

Basically it showed images of protestors (OWS) and their interaction with the police.

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MP: you have so fallen for it. This imagery, and these posters, are EXACLTY the propoganda the OWS crowd is hoping for. Provoke the police. Dramatize the role as victim. Get pictures and video taken. Edit them so they show only part of the story. Then send them around the world to inspire useful idiots like you.

You play your role exceptionally well.

MP: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-dare-you-alan-colmes-mike-gallagher-get-into-shouting-match-over-occupy-wall-street-tea-party-comparison/

CB: MP you are (as usual) full of crap. I have a cousin and his sister who actually saw the police beating people in NY. I think you my friend may need to vet your sources a little more.

MP: CB - what happened right before the police started "beating" people? What were the police doing? What were the protesters doing? Were the protesters violating the law? Were the police giving them lawful orders to stop doing what they were doing? Or are you jumping to your conclusions based on what your cousin and his sister tols you they saw? Where were they when they saw it? Did they hear what commands were given? Do they know the laws at play that the police were charged with enforcing? Are they experts, or even knowledgabel, in the use of force by law enforcement officers under the law?

Should we allow "protesters" to run amock, do whatever they want, protest whatever they want, whenever they want, wherever they want with no regard for law and order, or the rights of others? Should we have the police merely stand by and watch, and not enforce the laws, not enforce the laws that protect all the other folks too? Should we assume that, just because protesters are "protesting" something, they are now magically immune from following the law or the lawful commands of the police and should never have to face the consequences of doing so? Are our freedoms of speech and expression a free pass to behave as we like with no regard for the law or society?

Much of the media hype we are seeing, of the sort Todd posted, is just that ... hype. It ignores the laws broken and the charge society has given to the police to address that. It ignores the facts of the incidents in question (they are never the same, but they sure make for good posters) and never tells us about what led up to it. And, if carried to their logical conclusions, the line of thinking used devolves us into anarchy.

If my preference for a law abifing society against their preference for anarchy makes me "full of crap," then so be it. If my preference for wanting to know the rest of the story before jumping on the protest bandwagon because of a few edited videos or artistically designed posters makes me "full of crap," then so be it.

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This guy (MP) worships beck and rush. Yesterday he posted this pic and I replied:

ME: And those fine young men are out there with OWS fighting for freedoms as well.

Occupy Oakland: footage shows police beating 'peaceful' Iraq war veteran

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/18/occupy-oakland-police-beating-veteran?CMP=twt_gu

MP: we already know your liberal views, and that you have no clue what America was supposed to be about (or maybe just oppose it), and that you are completely ignorant of the efforts of your fellow liberals to usurp this country's values by corrupting its institutions and tradi

His Dad: It's pretty darned obvious to me that TSS despises the Capitalist system and prefer it be replaced with a "more fair" system, like Socialism maybe?