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JFN1
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:53 AM Original message |
President Obama? He's Just Not Relevant... |
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RegieRocker
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Loud and clear! |
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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Fumesucker
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. Silence is the tacit nod of acquiescence. |
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emilyg
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. +10 |
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DonCoquixote
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. You think Hillary would support ows |
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Amonester
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
88. Good question. |
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tabasco
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
107. That poster responded in another thread that Hillary was "smart" |
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DonCoquixote
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #107 |
125. which poster |
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Mimosa
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. If our choice is between Obama and Newt or Mitt, we'd better get more enthusiastic |
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MADem
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. +1. The GOP would certainly give us something to cry about. nt |
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Donnachaidh
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
92. uhh, all the capitulating gave us something to cry about |
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MADem
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. Yes, I do. The second term is the legacy-building one. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #99 |
122. Obama . |
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MADem
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #122 |
159. It is my ardent wish that you are stunningly and overwhelming wrong about that. |
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Bluesbreaker
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Tue Nov-22-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #159 |
193. The only possible reason to vote for Obama |
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cui bono
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #99 |
130. Problem is what will his legacy be??? The best far right wing president ever? |
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MADem
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #130 |
158. He will, I hope, have four more years to try and please you. NT |
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cui bono
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Mon Nov-21-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #158 |
174. Doubt it. I'm not the GOP or a Teabagger. n/t |
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MADem
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Mon Nov-21-11 03:36 AM Response to Reply #158 |
175. Neither is he. Don't let your perfect be the enemy of the good. NT |
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bhikkhu
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #92 |
117. There was some capitulation on the part of the voters in the mid-terms |
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CaliforniaPeggy
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. He's not saying that we shouldn't vote for Obama... |
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roguevalley
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
25. what she said. vote holding my nose. I am a dem and don't apologize |
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cui bono
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
132. But why is a GOP president such a threat when all we hear on here is Obama couldn't do anything |
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TBF
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
66. Exactly - agree 100%. nt |
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oldlib
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
69. I agree. |
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Fokker Trip
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
139. This is what the corporate leaders want you to think. |
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Bluesbreaker
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Tue Nov-22-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #69 |
194. It's a ruse |
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JFN1
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I am truly beginning to wonder if it matters, given the outright control of the 1%... |
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tblue
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. So true This slow death is torture. We've been had. |
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Kaleko
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Yes, I know exactly what you mean. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
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JFN1
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Damn skippy. |
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roguevalley
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. or as newt the skank said: Get a job and a bath. Like he can |
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
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Sun Nov-20-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You know what I hate? |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Voting is irrelevant |
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Mimosa
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Nadia, I do understand. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Why I said I will vote |
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
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Admiral Loinpresser
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #89 |
116. +1 googool n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
60. Yup.. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
106. No change will come "from the streets" |
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a simple pattern
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Sun Nov-20-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Yeah, that's it |
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cui bono
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #106 |
133. Protesting is a short cut? WTF are you talking about??? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #106 |
141. What utter crap. |
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tabasco
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Sun Nov-20-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
113. Must be nice to be so comfortable |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #113 |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #113 |
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CoffeeCat
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
74. Oh, so we're suppose to vote for Fascist Lite? |
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Lorien
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
90. +1 nt |
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Donnachaidh
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
93. what CC said above! +100000! n/t |
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chervilant
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #74 |
103. Indeed! |
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bengalherder
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
131. Damn right! +1000! n/t |
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cui bono
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
136. The 99% should all write in "no confidence" for president. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
140. I agree..there is enough time for someone to emerge to speak for the majority of us |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
142. Well said. nt |
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Mon Nov-21-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
180. +1000,substantiative positive change in the US will NEVER occur under the current sham 2 party syste... |
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
104. Is the president helpless without massive majorities in both houses of Congress or not? |
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cui bono
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #104 |
137. Exactly what I've just been saying. You can't have it both ways. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
110. You prefer a kinder, gentler fascism? |
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julian09
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #110 |
145. Start bitching to your Dino reps or primary them |
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immoderate
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Nobody runs against Debbie W-S. |
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Admiral Loinpresser
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Sun Nov-20-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
114. Obama is also lethal. |
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Fokker Trip
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #114 |
149. Exactly, couldn't agree more. |
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Bluesbreaker
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Tue Nov-22-11 12:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
192. Really? |
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tabatha
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
6. Obama is highly relevant ONLY |
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Angry Dragon
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I need to ask you a question |
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tabatha
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Obama does not give up. |
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Angry Dragon
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You and I have completely different views on giving up |
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JDPriestly
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
45. He did not have to go out of his way to get the US entangled in more |
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
82. Why would Obama have agreed to trade agreements |
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JDPriestly
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. Quite possibly. |
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ChairmanAgnostic
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
62. He can try to compromise! That would be new! |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
143. No, he doesn't "give up." |
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FedUp_Queer
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Sun Nov-20-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
157. Are you kidding? |
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roguevalley
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. he had one in 2008-2010 and he didn't do shit. JOBS were needed |
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tabatha
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. He did not. |
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roguevalley
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. bullshit. i am old enough to remember blue and yellow dogs |
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cui bono
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
138. +1000 Bushies in drag. Or something like that. n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
68. Always an excuse for not getting the job done |
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tabatha
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
100. I think Rachel Maddow understands what Obama is up against |
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Mon Nov-21-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
179. Yes, I'm sure a corporate media star like Maddow |
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Mon Nov-21-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
172. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.... |
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
84. He had one of the most powerful mandates in history |
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Mon Nov-21-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #84 |
185. Had it and pissed it away. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
154. Putting Congress aside, |
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Electric Monk
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
7. HOPE v2.0 |
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roguevalley
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. awesome pic. isn't it amazing how many people see what is |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #29 |
63. The One Percent can always afford to bribe/hire servants to play Obama's fools |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
144. +100000 nt |
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bengalherder
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
147. I get a chuckle out of the ZOMG! Guy Fawkes!!11!11 brigade. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
9. I don't agree with this kind of discuss |
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JFN1
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Versus, what? |
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Hutzpa
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
81. To the uninitiated |
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Angry Dragon
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Right now Obama is the best presidential candiate out there |
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tblue
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. You think they aren't already? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Powerless or complicit. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
77. What do you think is happening NOW? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. Obama hasn't been relevant since he failed to take a stand and call the GOP's bluff over the debt |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I don't think the GOP was bluffing...they would have let the US go into default..... |
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tblue
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
47. I just heard someone in the super committee |
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
83. you didn't hear it all then, john kerry said the republicans ASKED Obama to not get involved |
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tblue
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
16. He's just not that into us. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
72. He's just not that into us...The mistake was thinking he ever was. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
156. and if/when Obama starts to defend/support OWS loudly then i bet 2/3rd of the people |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
19. He will go down in history as the great observer. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. President placeholder. A cardboard cut-out would be as useful. n/t |
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cui bono
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Mon Nov-21-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
167. He already is protecting the 1%. And before that he invited them into the WH. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
32. Yet another driveby smear. |
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Hardrada
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Oh? |
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cliffordu
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:38 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. OH!!! |
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roguevalley
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:44 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. cliffordu, I love ya but how is it always someone else's fault |
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:52 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. My concern is that the independents will not vote |
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cliffordu
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:16 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Name ONE thing he can do except make sound bites. |
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JFN1
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Sun Nov-20-11 04:53 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I see a courageous, articulate, and passionate individual in you - |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #48 |
67. He opposes our right to marry. Says God agrees with him. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. That's not true. He's voiced |
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
161. He opposes marriage equality, and says he does so because |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
146. I think you're awesome, Clifford! |
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Mon Nov-21-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
186. I really enjoyed reading that. I don't agree, but it was a damn |
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Hardrada
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. OMG! |
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cliffordu
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Party all night long, baybeees. |
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JFN1
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Who's doing the drive-by smearing aroud here? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I have yet to see any real defense of Obama. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. See #39 |
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Sun Nov-20-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
79. +1000 n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
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Sun Nov-20-11 04:15 AM Response to Original message |
54. Don't quote Thomas Carlyle. He was kind of a right-wing jerk, wasn't he? |
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JFN1
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Sun Nov-20-11 05:04 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. So? Words of wisdom come from genuinely surprising places. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 05:39 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I don't know how he used that quote. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
58. Not only are they duty bound to protect the constitution, but |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
59. Politicizing OWS is not what WE want!! |
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Cherchez la Femme
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
73. No, but verbal support would be appreciated. |
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Mon Nov-21-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #59 |
168. Supporting people's right to protest peacefully is not politicizing OWS. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
64. Kurt Vonnegut |
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
85. Plus one! nt |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
94. +1 |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
65. A great post! |
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CoffeeCat
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
70. Obama made himself irrelevant... |
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
127. +!!!!!!!!!! |
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Mon Nov-21-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
187. Yes. OWS was necessary, because Mr. O. can't, or won't |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
71. The world outside DC is really roiling and churning and gaining speed. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
75. Then why are you and other haters so obsessed with him? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
124. cuz he is wasting space that could be used by someone |
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Sun Nov-20-11 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
78. Obama is getting us right where the republicans want us |
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Sun Nov-20-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
80. IMHO all politicians are irrelevant to OWS |
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
86. if obama spoke out in favor of OWS, the same people who demand he'd get involved would *immediately* |
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. He shouldn't speak out in favor of OWS, but he should speak out |
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Mon Nov-21-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #91 |
170. Exactly. He spoke out very clearly in favor of the people of Egypt. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #86 |
162. Stale? You use that moldy-ass talking point and call the OP stale? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
87. K & R. Well put! nt |
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Sun Nov-20-11 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
95. The right wing noise machine thanks you for perpetuating yet another bullshit meme. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #95 |
115. Standing up against corporatist Dems... |
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Mon Nov-21-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #95 |
171. When they really should be thanking you for your blindness and aid in |
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
97. It didn't have to be that way. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. I believe it was "Yes WE can" |
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Mon Nov-21-11 01:22 AM Response to Reply #101 |
173. Deleted message |
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Nice! |
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Sun Nov-20-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
98. Obama 2012 - cuz its relevant |
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Sun Nov-20-11 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
105. He is entirely relevant to those who are complaining that |
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #105 |
163. Keep repeating that. |
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Mon Nov-21-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #163 |
178. Plenty of people will |
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Mon Nov-21-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #105 |
190. What ? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
108. K&R n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
111. I heard the same thing about a recent progressives's seminar. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
112. What EXACTLY are you trying to say here? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
118. Rec #100 n/t |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
119. I respectfully disagree with you |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
121. unrec twinkles...nt |
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #121 |
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #121 |
165. 139 recs as I post this, by the way.... |
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Mon Nov-21-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #165 |
176. Ain't democracy grand...nt |
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Sun Nov-20-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
123. our pres, is a hundred times better than B*sh any day, however, why else do you the crackdown on OWS |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #123 |
150. Is this sarcastic? |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #123 |
155. hyperbole much? Obama isn't even a hundred times better than Clinton. |
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
126. He's truly NOT the ISSUE...Whether he or Crazy Repugs are Elected in 2012 |
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
128. K&R. I like that quote by Tommy C. nt |
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Sun Nov-20-11 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
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Sun Nov-20-11 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
134. Obama is no friend of progressives... or working people.. or families... |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
151. "Relevance" - very important idea |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
152. "Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me." |
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Sun Nov-20-11 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
153. just one of many nonrelevancies |
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Sun Nov-20-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
160. words matter. |
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Mon Nov-21-11 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
166. Chances are great that the economy is about to take a new dive |
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Mon Nov-21-11 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
169. "Not Disappointed in Obama" |
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Mon Nov-21-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
177. Not only is he not relevant, he is in a legacy building mode of failure. |
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Mon Nov-21-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
181. Obama is running the country; OWS can only achieve anything if it becomes relevant to politicians. |
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Mon Nov-21-11 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
182. You're irrelevant nt |
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Mon Nov-21-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. that's all you had to bring? |
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Mon Nov-21-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #183 |
191. glad I could help |
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Mon Nov-21-11 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
184. it sounds like you're blaming obama for the left's own collective failure to recognize the right's |
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Mon Nov-21-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
188. He has the option. |
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Mon Nov-21-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
189. wtf |
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