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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:36 AM Original message |
I was taken aback when Chomsky said this right after the election |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. recommend |
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Crop Circle (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. kick n/t |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yep. n/t |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. K&R |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
5. K&R |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. Thanks. nt |
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PETRUS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
8. Lula - Brazil's Lula da Silva shaves beard in cancer battle |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
9. brazil? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yes, Obama was a 'community organizer' in Chicago |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. entirely different countries |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
68. Deleted message |
FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
80. How about you throw that red herring back...not edible. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
154. American Exceptionalism is BUNK |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 06:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
162. Ah! |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
165. LOL! You get the point, but then you don't. That's great stuff. |
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haikugal (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
98. I have found myself wondering how true this claim by Obama is. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
102. I accept every word you say |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. actually, you miss the biggest point. other places elect actual |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Brazil isn't like America |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. VIVA Democracy!!! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
96. Right on, bvar22 ! Right on, right on, right on! |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
108. Oh dear God... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
129. A joke, right? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Deleted message |
Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
97. PLUS ONE! |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
89. Yes. |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
90. Which of these is not like the other |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
117. That's another difference, the corrupt are held accountable |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #117 |
164. +1000! |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 02:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
157. Whether it's not like America or not is irrelevant to the point. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. Lula is a male, kid. Not 'her background' his background... |
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12AngryBorneoWildmen (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Man, you're still the same. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. The large size of the picture doesn't change the fact that Bluenorthwest |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
81. In fairness... |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
107. That is really coincidental. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. And Teddy Kennedy died ot it last year, and three of the most liberal |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
121. Community organizer indeed. Veeery good for the resume, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
153. Fail. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. Corporate controlled Empire in which we live does not allow for peasants |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. They are there but are marginalized at every step unless |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. OWS's message is that BOTH parties are finished --- |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
166. I wholeheartedly agree with you. |
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Itchinjim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
12. Sorry Noam, |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
64. And no less than Gore Vidal was talking about it in the 80's.... |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
72. The First Step |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. Who cares who says it. It's correct. My God the toadies are out in force today. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
126. Chomsky has been parroting this tired old line for a half century. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
13. And yet, 2000 - 2008, and therefor now, would have been much better if a Dem. had been elected |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Yes it matters .. but we can do better than this |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Agreed. We can do better. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
105. "we can do better than this" LOL! Yeah, in your magical fairy world where politics |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. if we settle, we lose. why do we always have to settle? I dream |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Why do we settle? Because everyone settles in the end. Some people need to settle a little more. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
67. There's no rule that says that we have to settle |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
93. It seems to me that in a democracy every settles at least a little. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
58. Right -- OWS isn't going to push a vote for "lesser evil" in 2012 ... they're moving to LEFT -- |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. We had better find a challenger. Many of my Dem friends here in town are talking about |
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Dutchmaster (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. Ron Paul has some solid policies that are attractive to some liberals. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. He's a dinosaur throw back. |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #76 |
125. Paul says he say he wants to close US bases all over the world. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
66. Agreed. nt |
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oldhippydude (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. i remember 2000 |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Kerry vs Bush was 2004, not 2000 |
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12AngryBorneoWildmen (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. WOW! Rag Momma Rag |
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oldhippydude (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
94. yah got me.. |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
152. A Dem was elected. |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
14. K and R |
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Fantastic Anarchist (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
21. As usual, Chomsky is right. |
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oldhippydude (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. while the marketing was good.. |
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Fantastic Anarchist (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. You are absolutely right. |
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Fantastic Anarchist (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
22. Oh, and a hearty kick and rec. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
25. Evo Morales was a very poor, Indigenous coca leaf farmer who rose to become... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. the corruption in those countries runs rampant |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
83. Corruption by definition is illegal. |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
87. The corruption was there long before there were any leftist leaders. |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
128. What makes you think that the US political structure is not just as corrupt? |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Very powerful post and really ought to have it's own thread. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Thank you.....A MUST READ |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. TRANSPARENT VOTE COUNTING is what this site |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Excellent post. (k&r) |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Right on! |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
63. What an excellent and interesting piece |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
71. Your response needs to be |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Whoops |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
77. Excellent excellent post! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
99. Wonderful post! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
146. Viva Democracy!!! |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
27. ""Not a dime's worth of difference" isn't a precisely correct critique... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
33. I wasn't. nt |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. For being here so long like you |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. I was not surprised |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
78. Brother in Arms |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. You're welcome, and I hope so. nt |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
103. "I was a pariah for pointing this out." |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #103 |
132. Anyone who didn't see Obama's post-ideological dogmatism by 2008... |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 03:09 AM Response to Reply #132 |
159. For the last time, there is no such thing as "post-ideological" or "post-partisan" |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
139. Great post LWolf. You took the words right out of my mind. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
35. REC |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Deleted message |
L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. good one |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Any way.... we've seen over the years..... |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
40. We had hope! Don't forget a majority of Americans want and voted |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. Yes, the campaign clearly knew what voters wanted all right. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
43. K and R nt |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. K & R !!! |
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piratefish08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
45. kick |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. It's pretty hard to honestly disagree with that. nt |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
51. I can't wait for the first primary. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. In Soviet Union we all have democratic primaries. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
100. If Obama is unopposed, that won't mean we're all down with him |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #100 |
136. Re: Progressives giving up |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #136 |
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a2liberal (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R (n/t) |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
57. When an election costs a billion bucks, what do you expect? |
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SunSeeker (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
156. Exactly! Bash the system, not Obama...unless you want a fascist |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
59. knr |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
62. Hard to figure this ... |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. I like rational discussions with a touch of |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
85. That doesn't quite explain your declaration you will vote for "lesser evil" ... |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
70. Hey now, hey now .......we won't let them win |
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evrstrong (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
122. "get to know the feeling of liberation and release" - perfect! |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
79. k/r |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
86. Nihilist. |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. To elaborate on this |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
91. K&R |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
92. K&R. nt |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
95. Kicked and recommended! nt |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
101. Chomsky is such a fucking hypocrite. I got to the part about attending "elite universities" |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Thank You for that. The irony escapes Chomsky's acolytes. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. You missed Chomsky's point. Obama's statement was false. Chomsky points it out. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
120. Chomsky's statement about the universities was false. |
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MFrohike (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 02:54 AM Response to Reply #120 |
158. Off the top of my head |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. +a million. This entire thread and the jaw dropping ignorance within is simply astounding. |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. I see what you're saying, but |
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ChadwickHenryWard (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
115. Chomsky was referring to Bush versus Kerry. |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #115 |
123. Do you really think that there is a difference? nt. |
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ChadwickHenryWard (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #123 |
167. No, I think it's the same shit shuffled around every four years. |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #101 |
145. Such contortions. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 06:16 AM Response to Reply #101 |
161. It's what you do with that education that counts. Sure, Obama is a lesser evil, but Chomsky is |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
104. Um, Obama is not from the ruling class. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #104 |
133. Chomsky: ""He grew up in a privileged way..." |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #133 |
144. He did go to a great school. I sent my kid there too, and we aren't rich by any perverse stretch. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
109. K&R. The myth of American exceptionalism is killing us. |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
113. Amen. Amen. Amen. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #113 |
134. Of course you won't vote for the Democrat. |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
116. But if you listen to Chomsky carefully you realize that he would vote for Obama too ... |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
118. k&r! nt |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
119. Nixon went to Whittier. Carter went to Georgia Tech. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
124. Meh. |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #124 |
137. Deep understanding of American politics? Cynical linguist? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. I didn't stutter. |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #138 |
143. Stutter? Lost me there. |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
127. So choosing miniFascism over super Fascism isn't still choosing Fascism? |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
130. Sounds exactly like the "both parties are the same" brigade here (nt) |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. And equally as clueless. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. "And equally as clueless." |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
140. He's always so spot on. nt |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
141. K & R |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
142. Not me! I only voted for Obama because the alternative was totally unacceptable. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
147. REC. thanks for posting this. nt |
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dash_bannon (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
148. I Was Listening to Nader Speak |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-20-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
150. In my case, you're preaching to the choir. |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #150 |
151. You sure you're part of the choir? Chomsky's "logic" applies even more to the Clintons n/t |
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Pryderi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
155. I hate Noam Chomsky |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
160. K & R |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-21-11 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
163. He and a number of others also said it BEFORE the election |
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