"Fairly standard police procedure." - "Bodies don't have handles on them."

[WillyT]

From: Officers in pepper spray incident placed on leave
By JASON DEAREN, Associated Press/SFGate
Sunday, November 20, 2011

As the video spread online and on television of an officer blasting pepper spray into the faces of seated protesters, outrage came quickly — followed almost as quickly by defense from police.

However, a law enforcement official who watched the clip called the use of force "fairly standard police procedure." Charles J. Kelly, a former Baltimore Police Department lieutenant who wrote the department's use of force guidelines, said pepper spray is a "compliance tool" that can be used on subjects who do not resist, and is preferable to simply lifting protesters.

"When you start picking up human bodies, you risk hurting them," Kelly said. "Bodies don't have handles on them."

After reviewing the video, Kelly said he observed at least two cases of "active resistance" from protesters. In one instance, a woman pulls her arm back from an officer. In the second instance, a protester curls into a ball. Each of those actions could have warranted more force, including baton strikes and pressure-point techniques.

"What I'm looking at is fairly standard police procedure," Kelly said.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/11/19/national/a181039S04.DTL&tsp=1

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[MADem]

1. I think they need a new "standard." That's overkill. nt

[Amonester]

2. I bet they "teach" them in police academies...

Endangering Peaceful People's Health 101

and 102, 201, 202, 301, etc.

:grr:

[FarCenter]

3. Perhaps they could spray adhesive and attach velcro strips

Then you could use velcro handles?

[Duer 157099]

4. It's the "Bodies don't have handles on them." part that is mind-blowing

See, that's the problem, we don't have no stinkin' handles on us so we can be tossed around like the garbage that we are!

[WillyT]

9. The Part That Blew My Mind...

"When you start picking up human bodies, you risk hurting them,"

What... Pepper spray doesn't hurt them ???

Un-fucking-believable!!!

:crazy:

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[reggie the dog]

15. when you start picking up HUMAN BODIES they are DEAD!

you pick up live HUMANS, you pick up DEAD HUMAN BODIES

[pnwmom]

17. Me, too. With more than 10% having asthma. n/t

[Bonhomme Richard]

5. Contempt of Cop n/t

[Hutzpa]

6. Maybe we should ask him to curl up in a ball then spray him

with pepper spray then ask him how he feels about it.

[RoccoR5955]

7. Bovine freakin' fecal matter!

What a steaming, stinking heap! Not to mention, a lousy excuse.

[kickysnana]

8. In what universe does lifting unresisting people and using a Geneva banned weapon equate?

Sick!

:nuke:

[Amonester]

10. In the universe called Fac$i$m For The Wealthy. n t

[MorningGlow]

11. Keep digging, dudes. Keeeeep digging. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

12. He needs to experience real pain.

[nineteen50]

13. Why not try the Moynihan technique

of benign neglect. 

[Rex]

14. Our police state is fucked up beyond all recognition

FUCKING PIGS...make real cops look bad and gives all law enforcement a black eye. If you are a COP...you should be ashamed of some of your fellow brothers and sisters.

[doublethink]

16. He's kidding right ?

"a protester curls into a ball. Each of those actions could have warranted more force, including baton strikes and pressure-point techniques."

so curling into a ball whether it was because of the pepper spray or not .... is considered 'active resistance' and that requires a good beating. What a thug.

[Historic NY]

18. Really not in Austin Texas.......people should FOIL police dept. general order

C. Officers will not use chemical agents on subjects exhibiting only verbal and/or passive resistance to arrest or authority

http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/police/gen_orders_b.htm

[WillyT]

19. Kick !!!

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