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Sheepshank
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:28 PM Original message |
Is this recent "Obama cutting SS" meme, a GOP coordinated backlash? |
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Enrique
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. the Bowles-Simpson Commission was not a meme n/t |
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NorthCarolina
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Precisely. It is simply amazing how hard this is for some to comprehend. nt |
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JVS
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. You're assuming that this isn't a disingenuous way to malign those who are defending Soc security. |
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MineralMan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. Almost as hard as comprehending that the Fiscal Commission |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. yet the media and members of Congress treat it as if there were. Doesn't matter it wasn't "official" |
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Most of the ideas in the report are good. They help close the gap and put |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. I got the idea from O himself -- |
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elleng
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Probably, and |
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TheWraith
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, it is. It's scaremongering, on the same level as "death panels." nt |
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MineralMan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. Good find. It will not stop the meme, though. |
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Dawgs
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Kind of like ending "tax cuts for the rich" and the "public option"? |
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Enrique
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. like finding an Obama speech where Obama touts the public option |
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MineralMan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Good points, except that President Obama was unable to get |
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Dawgs
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Why couldn't he get the PO through Congress? There's ZERO proof they didn't have the votes. |
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MineralMan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. There was no reconciliation, though. He can't force |
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Dawgs
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. HCR didn't pass through reconciliation? |
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DonCoquixote
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Could you make an op out of this? |
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Dawgs
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. You must have been missing the few days after he signed it. |
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MineralMan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. That OP was written more than once at that time. |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. "the President would never see DADT repeal through?" |
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MineralMan
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Uh-huh...I was here, and saw the many, many posts to that |
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Kingofalldems
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's well known the repubs accuse Dems of things |
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tularetom
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. Obama appointed the catfood commission |
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Dawgs
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. Look at those he appoints. You really don't need to look any further. |
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Sheepshank
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. The Commission has had how many of their suggestions |
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Dawgs
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I'm talking about more than just the commission. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. They are being looked at now by President Obama and a group of Senators |
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Sheepshank
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
56. Obama is merely being polite |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Why would he need to be polite? A lot of Dems came out right away and blasted these proposals. |
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Sheepshank
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Fri Jan-21-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. It's in the nature of Obama to be civil even when he doesn't agree |
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DrDan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. he is on record stating his support for modest changes |
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Sheepshank
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I'm not averse to changes per se |
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DrDan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:51 PM Original message |
that is true - and room for raising the cap |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. What fraud and ineffeciency? |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. Nice cherry picking... |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Wonderful. Thanks. |
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DrDan
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. those ideas have been discussed ad nauseum around here - not a secret to anyone |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. And we'd better KEEP this discussion on the front burner |
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DrDan
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. don't think there is much risk in that |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I hope not... |
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Dawgs
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. I trust Bernie Sanders more than any other politician. |
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vi5
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
16. It's probably the same people who spread the lies that.... |
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Dawgs
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. You are bad. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. +1000 |
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Sheepshank
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Actually it's probably coming form the same people |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. ... |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
18. The Fiscal Commission was created by Obama. It recommends cutting SS and Medicare |
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MineralMan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. The Fiscal Commission recommended nothing at all. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. President is using these suggestions for his 2012 budget, he said so himself. Quite clearly: |
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MineralMan
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. You are aware that the draft report covers far more than |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Obama said he wanted to reform entitlements after the midterm elections... |
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Sheepshank
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. nope...yet another assumption |
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SidDithers
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. Whether generated by the right or the left... |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. And the BIGGEST LIE of all |
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SidDithers
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!... |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. It's already started... |
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xchrom
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
34. Don't create the catfood commission, don't talk about cutting 'entitlements, |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
42. It also concerns me that all his economic advisors are very bad on Social Security. |
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JVS
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. It would be nice if he crafted his policies with advisors who inspire confidence rather than dread. |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Yeah, I mean why not James Galbraith, Dean Baker or Paul Krugman? |
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TBF
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. Guess we'll have to see what President Obama has to say for himself in the SOTU speech. nt |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Yupp. Can't wait. |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
48. William Daley tapped as Obama's chief of staff |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
50. President Obama on Social Security & Entitlement Reform: |
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Sheepshank
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. y-e-a-h that interview said it all *roll eyes* |
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jtown1123
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. It's called putting two and two together. Some claimed that he was not looking |
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ProudDad
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. You do remember that Social Security is NOT part of the "deficit problem" |
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jtown1123
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Fri Jan-21-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I know that. I don't think Obama does. That's what I am worried about. |
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Fumesucker
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
57. I get a PayPal from the RNC and the Koch brothers every time I work it into my posts.. |
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Lucky 13
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
64. Only time will tell. |
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Capitalocracy
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Fri Jan-21-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
70. Yes, he's going to protect it from privatization |
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mmonk
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Fri Jan-21-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. Yeah it's all them. |
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