If you hire students as janitors

[lunatica]

They can get extra credit and few more bucks if they go clean the rich kid's schools too, sort of as an after school project in career building.

[dkf]

1. My brother was a room cleaner in high school and he had a paper route before that.

A lot of my friends worked on campus during college. Why is this so strange?

When working during college is seen as a symbol of being a lower class that is screwed up.

[edhopper]

2. We are talking about

Grade school, not college.

[dkf]

6. I think the paper delivery was at a pretty young age. Maybe intermediate.

Cleaning the classrooms was maybe Freshman or Sophomore year of hgh school. And we had kids who served school lunch and got a free lunch in return.

[lunatica]

9. So did you put Janitors out of work so you could help your family survive?

[dkf]

11. It was my brother and he did it for gas money.

I didn't feel the need for a car so I waited til I graduated high school to get a job.

A bunch of my friends were working in high school, including room cleaning. So I had 4 friends who did room cleaning and 4 friends who worked at Arby's, one who worked at the family gas station and a few who worked at McDonalds. This is all during high school.

[lonestarnot]

17. I worked three jobs and went to high school because I just felt like it, not because I had to.

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[Enrique]

4. when people want to throw janitors out of work

and have grade-school children take their jobs, THAT is screwed up.

[SecularMotion]

5. +1

[dkf]

7. Well like I said earlier, that is how we were doing it back then.

My brother wanted a car and my parents told him he needed to earn his own gas money.

[lunatica]

10. You don't see the difference between what you did and Newt's ideas about

rolling back child labor laws? Did you work in a factory where you lost fingers? Did you have to work 14 hours a day so you help keep your family from starving?

I really doubt you did any more work than I did babysitting.

Jesus! You are one of the densest people on DU. Consistent too.

[dkf]

12. He was talking about cleaning up the school for God's sakes, just like they do in Japan.

It's funny to think we used to have summer break so kids could help harvest. Now they can't clean up their own classrooms because it's beneath them.

[WinkyDink]

15. "So kids could help harvest." Yeah, they used to work in the mines of PA, too. Your point is EVIL,

just like your Republican heroes' points are.

Equating a paper-route with putting a child into a school-custodian role is typical Republican "argument."

So allow me to "argue" the same way: "Hey! I was once in Girl Scouts! What's wrong with young people banding together?! Go, OWS!"

[Pithlet]

22. No. He's talking about repealing child labor laws.

He spells it out. Talks about busting unions even. You're flat out wrong.

[lunatica]

8. So you're OK with rolling back child labor laws to the 1890s?

That's what I'm talking about.

[dkf]

16. Not overly strenuous jobs, but classroom cleaning is fine.

I condemn migrant workers taking their 6 year olds to help harvest the crops. That is obviously too much.

In 9th grade I was cooking dinner for the family along with cleaning the bathrooms and doing other chores.

[sufrommich]

18. I would love to know how long ago your brother cleaned

schools and in what state. I was a union school custodian in Michigan for 33 years and have never heard of a student "room cleaner", I can't imagine a union that would allow kids to take jobs from adults who have families to support.

[dkf]

23. Hawaii. And we are a strong union state. The state is our largest employer.

[shraby]

20. That's a pretty slippery slope your advocatiing there. I'm

69 and I also picked strawberries as a kid..for 5 cents a quart..raspberries were 10 cents a quart..then after season I helped pick for the canning jars cause Mom could get them free then. There is a big difference in wanting to make a few bucks for gas for the car the kid owns and having to because the parent's wages have been dropped so far that the kids have to work in order to have anything.
When raising my brood, we figured school was the most important work they could do. They could have jobs in the summer in their teens but during the school year, school work was top priority.

[Bluenorthwest]

25. So you condmn the migrant workers, not the rich agra business

that hires kids? Wow. And you equate household chores to a grade school kid forced to be a janitor at their own school? Wow.

[gkhouston]

21. It's clearly what the right wants, presumably to lower wages even further.

Why send jobs overseas when you can pay third-world wages here?

[WinkyDink]

14. What about the term "Child Labor Laws" do you and Gingrich not get?

[timtom]

3. And, here's the best part --

It will leave the abysmally stupid free to become "successful" political leaders like Young from Alaska.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/20/don-young-doug-brinkley_n_1103979.html

[saras]

19. If you put me to work as a janitor as a kid, I'd steal you blind and be convinced you deserved it

I'm a human being, not a servant. Personally I've never seen the need for 80% of janitorial work - I'd MUCH rather see people clean up after themselves, and frankly, I wouldn't really care how much enforcement it took.

The other 20% is demanding, skilled labor and should be trained for and paid for that way, and not have a bunch of scutwork used to drag its value down.

[tsuki]

24. Will they be trained in industrial cleaners? nt

[woo me with science]

26. My first grade class overseas did this. They handed us cans of bleach Comet once a month

and had us on our hands and knees scrubbing the floors.

I still remember what that cleaner tasted like, and that it ruined a favorite dress of mine.