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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:27 PM
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College majors with bleak outlook to be phased out
BEIJING - China's Ministry of Education announced on Monday that college majors with bleak employment outlook will be phased out, amid increasing difficulties for the country's college graduates to find a job.

For any college majors, if the employment rate of its graduates stand below 60 percent for two consecutive years, their enrollment quota will be reduced till they are phased out completely, according to a policy published by the ministry on its website.

According to statistics the ministry released on Monday, college students ready to graduate and enter the country's job market in 2012 number 6.8 million.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-11/21/content_14136857.htm
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:35 PM
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1. Are colleges nothing more than tech schools? Is the job of school to do nothing other than prepare
you to get a job and enrich the man?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:44 PM
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6. Appartently in China they are. nt
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 03:29 PM
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16. What's interesting is to read chinese opinions about their abilities...

They bemoan the fact that they create so little in their pursuit to copy us.

They order U.S. products in mass, then set their engineers to copying them. Friend is an engineer, was sent there (it's where the work is now) after they bought some solar manufacturing equipment and set up a plant to copy the work. They couldn't get the silicon output correct, so they called this guy in. His tests (that was his job in the factories that were closed here) showed that their output was fine, they just didn't know enough yet to understand what they were producing.

Don't take this wrong, I am not criticizing them. A time-honored strategy in business is simply doing what someone else is doing cheaper (not necessarily better) and we created a lot of wealth in this country by doing just that. They learned this from us.

But it does nothing for real growth, just chews away at our human resources. Works in China because they are starting with bare fields and people who have never lived with all the junk this brings. In the U.S., however, we are trying to match their strategy by doing what we did before but with less expense, expense being defined as human beings. (Now corporations are human beings, and human beings are, what, expendable? Trash?).

The only way we will win this is to set all that aside and invest in our people and country with lots of low or no-cost offers of education, with R&D, getting rid of the damning effects of health care on our economy.

'Cause we won't win a race to the bottom with people who are starting from there.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:40 PM
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2. Talk about reactionary idiocy
but nobody has ever accused Chinese Government of being all that forward thinking in the past.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:29 PM
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11. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work"
or "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need".

It is the function of society to develop each worker to maximize his or her abilities.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:41 PM
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3. That happens in America too - our local community college had a certificate program for
circuit boards or something technical like that.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:45 PM
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7. The federal government didn't make that decision for your
community colledge.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 03:14 PM
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14. true.
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themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:41 PM
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4. Might as well stop calling them colleges then.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:42 PM
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5. I hear that a degree in Death, Destruction, Greed
is the way to go.............
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:47 PM
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8. IS there a MBA in DDG?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:54 PM
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9. Yes ............
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:24 PM
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10. West Point, Annapolis, and the Air Force Academy are tops for that
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 02:10 PM
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12. Problem is that college majors with bleak futures now may be the majors
with great futures ten years from now.

An education degree used to be a ticket to a secure career.

Now, look at all the teachers out of work.

We used to consider business majors to be the least intelligent folks. Now all sorts of mathematicians and super-smart people, people who used to become engineers -- you know, useful things -- want to go into business because that is where all the money is.

You cannot predict these trends in the US. Maybe you can in Communist China, but you can't in the US.

I remember when young people were encouraged to study computer technology. The pay hardly makes it worthwhile for a lot of young people today.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 02:26 PM
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13. Young Computer Science grads have low unemployment numbers
It's the 40 year old and up comp sci people who have higher unemployment, partly because they haven't put in the effort needed to keep up with technology, and partly because they were promoted to higher paying positions and then lost them. Reentry back into lower paying jobs is painful for many, but it is necessary because the part of their previous salary that was due to their company-specific knowledge isn't of value to a new employer.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 04:32 PM
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17. Depends which part of "computer technology" you are referring to
The people who are "computer janitors" are not paid well.

Move deeper into the technology, and the pay goes up.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 03:16 PM
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15. Classic Fascism at work
:nuke:
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