Dems Growing Convinced That GOP Will Try To Force Shutdown Over Health Care Funds

[still_one]

Is there anything the Democrats aren't afraid of?

Maybe for once they could fight back?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/20/health-care-funding-government-shutdown_n_811870.html

[wtbymark]

1. Let em' shut it down

more effective than forcing them to actually filibuster

[AndyTiedye]

3. Effective for Whom?

A shutdown would suit the teabaggers just fine. That's what they want.

[Drale]

5. Thats what they think they want

until their unemployment stops, their welfare stops, their medicare stops what ever it is that makes them hypocrites, because we all know every single one of them is a hypocrite, that is what will stop with a government shut down.

[AndyTiedye]

9. They Have Voted Repeatedly for Repigs Who Promise to Destroy All Those Programs

Why would they change their minds when the politicians they elected actually keep their promises?

[still_one]

7. I agree. They already made asses out of themseleves by the "Contitutional reading", and the

meaningless vote against HCR

[AndyTiedye]

2. Those Fears are Entirely Justified

We haven't got the votes to pass these appropriation bills with the Repigs voting in lockstep against them.
The Repigs will hold our most vulnerable constituents hostage until they get what they want.
That's what they do. We have no corresponding leverage over them.

They own the media, so most people will never hear our side of the story, even if we take to the streets to tell it.

Fighting back would be great if we can find some way to do it.

Any suggestions?

[juajen]

4. I think our only chance is outrage or disgust on the part of their constituents

Some of them are waking up. I know I have a close relative and best friend who are very fond of some of the health care bill. My relative asked me just the other day if they had done away with the $250 stimulus for ss recipients. I told her that I thought they were going to destroy that and she was disgusted. She really needed that money as her hubbie is still alive and that would be $500. All republicans are not stupid, you know? They do realize the difference between a huge tax cut for the sickly rich, and the poor ss recipients, whose cola's have been denied now for two years.

I have some very good friends and relatives who are seeing some facts turn into squash. You know that old adage "you can fool all of the people part of the time, part of the people all of the time, but, etc. etc.

So, only solution I can see is get them one at a time and speak reasonably to what really effects them. One changed mind about one thing is enough for them to start doubting what they are hearing. Sorta like what I heard the other day, that "Fox News" is not rated as truthful in the numbers it once was. This is the problem, you know. They only listen to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.

[AndyTiedye]

6. One at a Time vs. 100000 at a Time

So, only solution I can see is get them one at a time and speak reasonably to what really effects them. One changed mind about one thing is enough for them to start doubting what they are hearing. Sorta like what I heard the other day, that "Fox News" is not rated as truthful in the numbers it once was. This is the problem, you know. They only listen to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.

If you have been able to change any minds that have been infected with FauxNews, then your persuasive abilities are far greater than mine.
I have yet to find any way to penetrate that level of brainwashing. Reason and logic have no impact on it because it does not operate at that level.

At best, all you can get is one changed mind. The Mighty Slime Machine changes minds 100000 at a time.

It's like trying to bail a sinking ship with a spoon.

All republicans are not stupid, you know?

If they weren't stupid before they started listening to Faux and Rush, they are now.

[still_one]

8. Yes, let the government come to a stand still, and spend 24/7 on the media saying it is because of

the repukes, until they blink

[AndyTiedye]

10. On Whose Media?

We're lucky if we get 24 seconds on the MSM, let alone 24 hours.