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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:23 PM Original message |
Ya Know... The Naomi Wolf/PERF/DHS/#OWS Conundrum Is An Interesting Problem Here... |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Barack Obama is not in charge of DHS. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Well Hell Tabatha... THAT... Is Breaking News !!!! |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. lol! Well, he probably maybe likes them a lot. nt |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Janet Napolitano is the current head of DHS (Dept of Homeland Securitry) |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. When the Act was written that created the DHS, it was expressly |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. So...it could go renegade ...whether Obama appointed the head of the agency or not.. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Wow! blow me over with a feather !! |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. No shit? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. You are right of course, but I bet he has a lot of pull. nm |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. I guess things are even worse than Naomi Wolf thought. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. beleive you me, the evidence is there |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Remember THIS Term ??? - "Plausible Deniability" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Lets put it this way |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Yes. The evidence is there. And, hopefully we will be privy to it one day. But, currently we are |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. My only conclussion is that it is happening |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. As I said over and over again. History reveals to us that the state (at all levels) will collude |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. I Know... But... I'm Not Shocked At All... Are You ??? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I'm shocked that so many DUers will accept someone's opinion as truth. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. This hack Naomi Wolf's story is a fucking DISTRACTION from the OWS effort... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I agree....... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. If something could harm the OWS effort, shouldn't it be investigated as a possibility, though? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. She's far from a hack. Her book The Shock Doctrine accurately explains a lot of what OWS is about. |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. different Naomi....that is Naomi Klein |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Dupe. (server burp) |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. The National Lawyers Guild believes there is enough evidence.. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. And the point is, until there is proof it's FOX News standards to present assumptions as SHOCKING |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. This is so funny... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Just Like You Don't Need "Iron Clad Facts" To Feel Good About Him... |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. It's in the toilet all right. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Wouldn't the "underground" be the ones who challenge the status quo? |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-27-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You'd think, wouldn't you? |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. your web browser stuck or something? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
26. Once the President gets involved, this is how it goes down... |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. You know what's fun in these "It's not happening & if it is Obama didn't do it" situations? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Also, when did this become all about Naomi Wolf? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Easier to attack the messenger than the message. A la, "Glenn Greenwald automatic unrec." |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. Why many continue to kiss the asses of our goverment... I'll never know... |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
33. Obama had nothing to do with this horrible action! Unless he did-- in which case, it was reasonable! |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-28-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. That's why I recommend we leave Obama out of it for now. DHS should NOT be involved in suppressing |
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