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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:09 AM Original message |
The Obama M1 rifle meltdown? |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. Here's a story from about a year ago (sorry about the Fox News link). |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. LOL I ask for facts and I get a link to Fox, the world |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Yeah, I haven't been able to find any later story. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
57. I thought the Senate passed an exception to allow their reimportation... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
37. When discussing any story involving gun control ... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. The Carbines are very easily converted into M-2s |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
79. I heard a story about that once. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Possible... |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Thank you for your reply. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #79 |
95. When I was in the Nam M-2 Carbines were everywhere |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
85. Both guns were halted |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
102. So, about as fictional as the story about the M-5. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. Last time I heard this story it was Bill Clinton who had them destroyed. n/t |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Those were M14's |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. The M14 is much lighter and has way less recoil. I'm still waiting for a credible source. n/t |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. I was referring to the destruction/demilling of stockplied M14's |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
3. it doesn't have to be true to have an impact |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. M1? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I'm not a gun guy but I know some people love these things |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I'm sure it is |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Like old buildings, there is a movement to not destroy fireams -- esp those with historic value. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. "The greatest battle implement ever devised" |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
52. In effect, Patton was marginally more successful than Freidendall. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. One front |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. "Victory was bought with American Spam, and paid for with Russian blood." |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. The Civilian Marksmenship Program sells M1 Garands (your picture) |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Agreed n/t |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Fair enough |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. It will increase the value of existing M1's. When I was overseas |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Last I checked, those were Turkish returns. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Dude! 'Out of date'? No way! The M1A is awesome. |
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Pigheaded (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Not M1As |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. I own two Garands |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. By museum pieces |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
88. Lucky you! I would love to own an M1 Garand. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I got my first through the CMP. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. What's the big deal? They're antiques, and amazing pieces of history. |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
65. The Garand is ADORED by many. Rightfully so. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. Nice. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. This DU thread from a year ago may help. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
10. I read some time ago that |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
12. There are plenty of M1s available on the market. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. I agree. pricey indeed. Like diamonds, there are a lot more of them out there |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. My deer rifle is a sporterized Springfield |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
80. They'd be a bit less "pricey" if there were a few hundred thousand more on the market. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #80 |
97. Actually, there are thousands of them... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I know that. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. no I didn't, if you read my post above you will see that |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. "They keep the supply falsely short to raise the price." |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
14. Just what America needs: one million more military rifles on the street. |
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Pigheaded (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. You should probably learn what these are before posting |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Would you prefer a million Garands or a million AR-15s sold to Americans? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. This isn't "either these guns/or those guns". |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Weasel weasel weasel |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
78. 70% of Americans don't own guns. NOT owning a gun is certainly an option. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Now your avoiding the question |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #86 |
94. And you're avoiding reality. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. You're avoiding both the question and reality, which does not bode well for you. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. Not the "assault rifhe" nonsense again |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
82. No, pistol-grips do not make it "easier to shoot from the hip". |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
87. Yeah, I know, I know. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
70. Black-powder muskets were military weapons at one point |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
81. Your ignorance.... astounding. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
18. See posted links. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. According to the e-mail they were still packed in cosmoline n/t |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I'm sure they were... at least I hope they were. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I was at Cabela's a few days ago and they had about |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. You can hunt deer with them. Ammo is easy to get. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Mosin Nagants |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Probably Mosin Nagants. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. That looks like them, they had two models one in a 7.62x39 and |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. the 7.62 x 54 is a beast of a round, Mosin Nagants have the worst recoil of anything I've ever shot |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
62. They were probably Mosin Nagant 91/30s. |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. Every time I look at my smooshed thumb nail |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. "Thumbuster". n/t |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. +1 |
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kudzu22 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
32. As far as I know it's just a re-import restriction |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Think of the impact on domestic gun makers if there |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Firearms are not fungible. There would be no effect on domestic gun makers whatsoever. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
91. But if you deal in collector rifles, wouldn't hundreds of thousands |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. Point for clarity - Collectors don't deal. Most dealers don't collect. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. I've always looked at collecting as an investment. That's |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I also regard my collection as an investment as well as a source of amusement |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. You always have to think supply and demand. |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Since nobody currently makes the M1 Garand, I doubt Colt would feel much pain. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Fulton Armory makes them... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Those are "FrankenGarands" and can never be transferred as curios or relics |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. According to Fulton Armory, they are C&R eligible. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. So noted |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. No, they're not... |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. Out of my price range. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
92. I guess it would mostly affect the collectors of M1's. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
51. And even if true, so what? The M1 was an implement of war, and is useless for anything else. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Obviously you are not a golfer |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Your comment speaks to a lack of understanding. |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. And should they melt down "Sentimental Journey"? |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. You need some new information. It is a very popular buy and |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. ...or in a war? |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
73. Are you a gun hater? |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. Millions of hunters would say you're dead wrong. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Yep, and at the Camp Perry Matches too... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
83. Your ignorance.... stunning. n/t |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
75. I wouldn't lose any sleep if guns were being destroyed |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
76. M1???? |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-29-11 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
90. LOL, who forgot to bolt the Gun Dungeon door? |
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