Thank You Naomi Klein And Michael Moore... And Thank You #OWS... Bravo !!!

[WillyT]

NAOMI KLEIN: OK. I will answer that question, Richard, but first I just want to say how wonderful it is to be here and just what a fantastic panel this has been so far. There’s such just incredible richness of experience here. And, you know, for me, there is a real mix of emotions in it. I mean, it’s so incredible to hear this—to hear Michael Moore say he’s never seen anything like this in his lifetime, or to have Bill Greider draw these parallels with transformative movements of the past. But at the same time—I don’t know if you feel this, too—it’s also frightening, because it—I mean, it is—it underlines the awesome responsibility of this political moment, that this is the "no kidding around" moment. So much is riding on it, and we have to succeed. And that is thrilling, as well as terrifying. But I think these are wonderful emotions.

<And...>

MICHAEL MOORE: But I just please want to second what Naomi said, that this is the "no kidding around" moment. My friends, please, the ship has sailed in. The ship will leave. As Bill said, many of these things that have happened in our 200-plus-year history have failed or been crushed. And this is our moment. This is the moment for it to happen. It will only happen if every single person in this room, tonight, when you leave, and you go home, you have to say to yourself, "What am I doing? What can I do to be part of the occupation? What am I going to do to occupy Wall Street?" Everybody watching this at home, on The Nation's website, anybody watching this right now, every one of you—doesn't matter, you’re living in Boise, you’re living in the most faraway reaches of Upper Minnesota, no matter where you are—I’ve seen Occupies that are two-people big. And this is where it’s got to start. And it always starts that way, right? I mean, Marx, he just had Engels. They were just—that’s all he had. I mean, it was like they were just—they were just two old farts, sitting around keeping their hands warm over the fireplace in London, talking to each other. And they—you know, they came up with this idea. And J.C. J.C. had 12 fisher guys. Look what happened with that. Whoa! So, if you’re at home and you’re watching this and you’re in some out-of-the-way place, you already own it. This is already your country. You—you have been occupied by Wall Street. Your homes have been occupied by Wall Street. Your government has been occupied by Wall Street. Your media has been occupied by Wall Street. And it’s OK for you to say, "Not anymore. Those days are over. End of story."

From: http://www.democracynow.org/2011/11/25/occupy_everywhere_michael_moore_naomi_klein

:patriot:

:bounce:

:kick:

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. K&R!

[polichick]

2. K&R These are particularly powerful words:

"You—you have been occupied by Wall Street. Your homes have been occupied by Wall Street. Your government has been occupied by Wall Street. Your media has been occupied by Wall Street. And it’s OK for you to say, "Not anymore. Those days are over. End of story."

[freshwest]

12. Excellent, K & R

[closeupready]

22. I agree. Those words stood out for me, too.

nt

[FailureToCommunicate]

33. If billboards were still everywhere, I'd like to see THOSE words on them!

[defendandprotect]

35. Wm. Greider and James Galbraith would make two terrific democrats to run in 2012 ... !!

THERE A LOT OF GOOD STUFF TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT HERE .....

Wm. Greider made clear that


WILLIAM GREIDER: The American pulse for democracy, the thirst for equality, for freedom, is a little like an underground river that has run underneath the surfaces of American history from the beginning. And it rarely is visible, at least to the established powers. It gets misled, deflected, stymied in different ways. But it continues these ideals, the original promise of what this country could be.


James Galbraith wasn't at this discussion, but mention him because of the wonderful defense

he raised re Social Security while unveiling the deceptions behind the attacks on it!

[NYC_SKP]

3. What, not a word about coordination with the FBI, FEMA, DHS! Thank you, Naomi Klien!!!!

Not to be confused with that "other" Naomi, Naomi Wolf!

:hi:

[Ignis]

13. What, Naomi Wolf is persona non gratta at DU now?

[Kaleko]

16. Anyone who has dared to suggest that Obama is responsible

for anything bad happening has been thrown under the bus.

Textbook cult following behavior. "Dear Leader" is both, the most responsible and irresponsible person on earth at the same time.

[SammyWinstonJack]

26. Love it!

"Dear Leader" is both, the most responsible and irresponsible person on earth at the same time. :evilgrin:

[mojowork_n]

23. This is the same poster

who cried, "Wolf, Wolf, Wolf," in another thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2389724

Went on and on and on...

without ever really clarifying or being specific about the "lies," in
the article she'd written in The Guardian, on OWS top-down push back.

[Ignis]

30. Wow. "She gets arrested sometimes, and she talks a lot."

This is how we liberals treat a renowned feminist icon, a former (D) presidential campaign consultant, and the author of important books like The End of America?

:puke:

Thanks for the link, though I'm sure this entire sub-thread will be disappeared soon.

[mojowork_n]

36. Doesn't look like it

Just saw an Alternet story, written by one of their editors, Joshua Holland,
that distances itself from any attempt to "connect the dots," saying there's
no evidence at all and they would like her to retract the line:

...Alternet has broken the story that municipal police are being pushed around by a shadowy private policing consultancy affiliated with DHS.

http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/153222/Naomi_Wolf%E2%80%99s_%E2%80%98Shocking_Truth%E2%80%99_About_the_%E2%80%98Occupy_Crackdowns%E2%80%99_Offers_Anything_but_the_Truth/?page=entire

It's more "nothing to see here, move along." Kind of like that thread.

Personally, despite the fact that Joshua Holland does his best to tear her down,
there's nothing that eye-opening or conclusive about his response.

It's still a 'glass half empty, glass half full' kind of argument.

[femrap]

4. More goosebumps. nt

[tblue]

5. I watched it on tv. It was great.

I am so grateful for them.

[Magoo48]

19. Goes for me too...

[russspeakeasy]

20. So did I...my sentiments, exactly.

[PufPuf23]

6. kr

[xchrom]

7. Awesome. Nt

[Enthusiast]

8. Kicked and recommended! nt

[Huey P. Long]

9. kr!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

10. K&R!

Occupy, baby, occupy!

[lonestarnot]

11. Fooking great!

K & R!

[Solly Mack]

14. k/r

[malaise]

15. Beautiful

Rec

[lunatica]

17. kick'd and rec'd

[woo me with science]

18. K&R nt

[Auggie]

21. K & R

[raouldukelives]

24. K&R

[sabrina 1]

25. All this country's very best and most honest people are

supporting this movement. You know you are on the right side when you look at who is there with you.

[Uncle Joe]

27. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, WillyT.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

28. this gives me goosebumps--the good kind!

Failure is NOT AN OPTION!!!

[Jim_Shorts]

29. It's our "no kidding around" moment

Our elected officials are not leaders, they have become pawns.

It's up to us.

Tracy Chapman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rZbvi6Tj6E

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

31. When are we going to realize that we the people,

should be running our country, like we were meant too.

[Paka]

32. Merci, mes amis.

I've lived and participated in a lot of movements. I am so glad I lived long enough to be on planet earth for this one. :bounce:

[defendandprotect]

34. LATE K&R ---