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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:22 PM
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Support cools for the Tea Party and the GOP
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/support-cools-for-the-tea-party-and-the-gop/2011/03/04/gIQAJqfz9N_blog.html

a poll released today by Pew Research Center shows the bloom appears to be off the rose.

According to Pew, while the general public hasn’t been enamored with the Tea Party for a while, there is almost an even split among those who agree and disagree with the right flank of the Republican Party in the districts represented by 60 House members in the Tea Party Caucus.

Now, here’s the bad news for the GOP. Its unfavorable rating among the general public has always been higher than its favorable. Back in September 2010, it was a 49 percent-43 percent split. Today, it’s 55 percent-36 percent. More ominous for the Republican party is that even its standing in Tea Party districts has gone underwater. In September 2010, the GOP was viewed favorably in those districts by 51 percent and unfavorably by 43 percent. Today, the party is viewed favorably by 41 percent and unfavorably by 48 percent.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:23 PM
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1. they're now figuring out just how unreasonable teabaggers are
yes INDEED
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:18 AM
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10. It's unfortunate for all of us that it required a demonstration.
But their own actions continue to provide the momentum that will soundly defeat them next year.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:25 PM
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2. The unruly stepchild has come back to torment mommy and daddy.
Nice family you have there, GOP.

ye reap what ye sow.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:28 PM
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3. Pretty funny...essentially, Republicans don't like themselves.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 09:28 PM by Old and In the Way
What a dysfunctional bunch of privateers.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:30 PM
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4. Gallup in August
http://www.gallup.com/poll/148940/tea-party-sparks-antipathy-passion.aspx

"The national Tea Party movement appears to have lost some ground in popular support after the blistering debate over raising the nation's debt ceiling in which TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS in the House & Senate FOUGHT ANY COMPROMISE ON TAXES & spending.

Along with the decline in overall support for the Tea Party from 30% to 25% in recent months, Gallup finds more Americans holding intensely negative feelings toward the movement than intensely positive feelings. It thus appears that, the Tea Party's leadership & activities may have been more successful at galvanizing the movement's opponents than expanding its base of passionate supporters."

Reagan adviser Bruce Bartlett

"I have previously posted a table showing that people support raising taxes as part of deficit reduction by a 2-to-1 margin over the Grover Norquist/Club for Growth/Tea Party position that the deficit must be reduced only by spending cuts without a penny of higher taxes. In light of President Obama's new budget plan, which includes higher taxes, I am posting an updated table, including a poll on Friday showing that three-fourths of people support higher taxes and only 21% support the doctrinaire right-wing position"
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:33 PM
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5. People may have felt connected to the other 99% and liked it. Better than
being a gop patsy whipped into a frenzy of false emotion and false hatred all the time. IMHO
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:36 PM
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6. People are finally realizing that the Tea Party was a flash in a pan
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 09:37 PM by meow2u3
Not just that, but the people's eyes are opening to the truth about the TP: an astroturf campaign with no roots, thanks in large part to OWS, the real grassroots movement.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:36 PM
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7. thats good news, finally coming to their senses
The teaparty may have helped the GOP in 2010 with a limited turnout but will be liability in 2012 when a larger cross section of the electorate shows up.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 10:06 PM
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8. by pulling them rightwards. David Frum NY Mag....
http://nymag.com/news/politics/conservatives-david-frum-2011-11/

"The Bush years cannot be repudiated, but the memory of them can be discarded to make way for a new and more radical ideology, assembled from bits of the old GOP platform that were once sublimated by the party elites but now roam the land freely: ultralibertarianism, crank monetary theories, populist fury, and paranoid visions of a Democratic Party controlled by ACORN and the New Black Panthers. For the past three years, the media have praised the enthusiasm and energy the tea party has brought to the GOP. Yet it’s telling that that movement has failed time and again to produce even a remotely credible candidate for president. Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich: The list of tea-party candidates reads like the early history of the U.S. space program, a series of humiliating fizzles and explosions that never achieved liftoff. A political movement that never took governing seriously was exploited by a succession of political entrepreneurs uninterested in governing—but all too interested in merchandising. Much as viewers tune in to American Idol to laugh at the inept, borderline dysfunctional early auditions, these tea-party champions provide a ghoulish type of news entertainment each time they reveal that they know nothing about public affairs and have never attempted to learn. But Cain’s gaffe on Libya or Perry’s brain freeze on the Department of Energy are not only indicators of bad leadership. They are indicators of a crisis of followership. The tea party never demanded knowledge or concern for governance, and so of course it never got them.

Many hope that the tea-party mood is just a passing mania, eventually to subside into something more like the businessperson’s Republicanism practiced in the nineties by governors and mayors like George Pataki and Rudy Giuliani, Christine Todd Whitman and Dick Riordan, Tommy Thompson and John Engler. This hope tends to coalesce around the candidacies of Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman, two smart and well-informed former governors who eschew the strident rhetoric of the tea party and who have thereby earned its deep distrust. But there are good reasons to fear that the ebbing of Republican radicalism remains far off...

Extremism and conflict make for bad politics but great TV. Over the past two decades, conservatism has evolved from a political philosophy into a market segment. An industry has grown up to serve that segment—and its stars have become the true thought leaders of the conservative world. The business model of the conservative media is built on two elements: provoking the audience into a fever of indignation (to keep them watching) and fomenting mistrust of all other information sources (so that they never change the channel). As a commercial proposition, this model has worked brilliantly in the Obama era. As journalism, not so much. As a tool of political mobilization, it backfires, by inciting followers to the point at which they force leaders into confrontations where everybody loses, like the summertime showdown over the debt ceiling.

But the thought leaders on talk radio and Fox do more than shape opinion. Backed by their own wing of the book-publishing industry and supported by think tanks that increasingly function as public-relations agencies, conservatives have built a whole alternative knowledge system, with its own facts, its own history, its own laws of economics."

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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:44 AM
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9. this is a very well written article and disturbingly true.
thanks for posting.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:48 AM
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12. Be very afraid, and fight like your life depends on it. There is mass hysteria on the right
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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:35 AM
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11. Frum quote "This isn’t conservatism; it’s a going-out-of-business sale for the baby-boom generation"
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 08:18 AM by bloomington-lib
Great article. Thanks!
This should have it's own thread if it doesn't already.
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Huey P. Long Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:49 AM
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13. yes, good excerpt. -eom
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:08 AM
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14. Purism is the last bastion of the defeated
At first, it is never that the "ideas" were wrong, it is that the candidates were not "pure" to them and that they weren't expressed strongly enough. After that comes "the people are not bright enough to understand". Sociologically speaking, this is all normal stuff. They are now looking for the "pure" candidate who will speak their ideas "strongly".

There are usually a couple of rounds of this before capitulation.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:15 AM
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15. Tea Party throws GOP overboard! ...n/t
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