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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:38 AM
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Eviction of Occupy LA starting now
The first police cordon is now on, Broadway and First

http://www.ustream.tv/occupyoakland
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:41 AM
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1. latest tweets
oizys Aaron Matthew
RT @quinnnorton: This is pathetic and maddening, media restrictions in LA: bit.ly/w3M2rH #occupyla #pressfreedom
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

popfreeradio Anonymous Patriot
Cops setting official perimeter outside #occupyla - ustream.tv/occupyoakland bare minimum of 300 riot cops on the way - it's going down soon
1 minute ago

gregcohn greg cohn
. Live stream of #occupyLA movement bit.ly/sVgUme @oakfosho reporting a perimeter being set; raid beginning @seanbonner
1 minute ago

TheBradBlog Brad Friedman
Perimeter being cordoned by LAPD around city hall. See @OakFoSho's streaming coverage here: bit.ly/v9ksNq #OccupyLA
1 minute ago

whywefightnet whywefight.net
sooo word +1 RT @C0d3Fr0sty: Regardless of how you feel about the Occupys, you need to protect the 1st amendment above all. Get to #occupyLA
1 minute ago
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:45 AM
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2. I guess they've had enough of this vox populi democracy shit
and they've dragged out the big Broom.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:51 AM
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4. You can say this ten times
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:49 AM
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3. Oh this is so true
eclecticechoes Eric Heupel
Cringe! RT @joygantic: @xeni Using sports stadium to "book & process" protesters doesn't trigger horrible historical associations. #occupyla
32 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Here is the historical analogy...

CHILE and the Stadium after Allende went down.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #3
119. In Holland, the SS used the Dutch stadium to hold those they
arrested as well.

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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:52 AM
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5. Keep us posted.
I can't view livestreams.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:53 AM
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6. He's is the best mostly due to gear
it is not a rinky dinky camera phone, or worst, a camera feed from a computer.

:hi:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:54 AM
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7. CBS reports that LAPD requests they show no helicopter footage.
Also Occupy Philly under attack.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:54 AM
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10. Oh that is standard...
they do not want these kids to have any tactical advantage as to how the cops are moving

And Philly too... color me surprised. NOT
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:55 AM
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11. Yes. But the first time that they've self-reported the restriction. Every other time..
they've just turned off the cameras.

""To protect the integrity of that police operation we are not showing you that shot right now." -- KCAL9 #OccupyLA, self-censoring helo-cam "

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:58 AM
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13. This is what a police state looks like
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aletier_v Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:13 AM
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31. yes
It reminds me of Waco, 1993.

Im still hoping that history can take a different course.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:54 AM
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8. The SEIU is there according to Oaksho
and they are still holding a GA.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:54 AM
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9. of course...
it's like things get quiet and they decide to rough us up a bit...
peaceful protests and SO infuriating you know


:mad:

please keep us posted, can;t do livestream right now
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:59 AM
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14. Geez a woman just said they would occupy then mayor's house
if anyone was hurt.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:56 AM
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12. This is impressive show of force

FearDept U.S. Dept. of Fear
We have 27 buses and 900 LAPD officers en route to Solidarity Park at this hour. via @OccupyLA #OccupyLA #OWS
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:01 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. Is there any mention of how many Occupiers on site
and other supporters/marchers nearby?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:04 AM
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21. Last I heard, 500.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #21
40. he just said 500-1000
"of our closest friends" ;)
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:39 AM
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51. #OLA on Twitter say 1,000+ at the site.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:01 AM
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16. They better all (both sides) do this peacefully...
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:03 AM
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17. i'm confused
oakfoshoo is in LA?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #17
24. He is chasing the story and his rig is a sweet rig
I can actually see shit
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:08 AM
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27. coolness
how is oakland holding up these days? heard they were taking back the park soon? i'll have to check in tomorrow...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:12 AM
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30. I think they have
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 01:12 AM by nadinbrzezinski
Right now I got NIGHT VISION, SHIT it is going down, something is going down

Fireworks... no, not kidding, fireworks
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WildNovember Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:03 AM
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18. I just saw something that gave me pause. Two people, a blond woman
and a white bearded man, were organizing the crowd with megaphones, but also using the "human microphone" to repeat what they said. After they were finished, a person near them tried to take the megaphone, but the woman said, no no no that's my megaphone. The guy says, can I say something? And I guess she told him to use the "mic check" method if he wanted to say anything. Then she and the white-haired guy went into a conclave and ignored him while he was speaking.

I dunno, this "no leadership" thing....it seems like there IS some leadership...who put the blonde and the bearded guy in charge? but they seem to be telling people what to do.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:03 AM
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19. If Villaraigosa is saying this is happening because there are children living in the camp...
...that is complete and utter bullshit. There are thousands of homeless children both alone and in families in Los Angeles.

There's two people fighting on KTLA.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:04 AM
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23. They're claiming to have captured an "agent provacteur"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:06 AM
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25. History of Madness
like the mad the homeless are invisible
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:03 AM
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20. Well lets see how a Union community organizer Mayor shuts down an occupy movement
Watching KCAL9 live on TV also it is on the internet http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/
not censorship on the local TV unlike NYC.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:07 AM
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26. They actually set up a pool
so they did to a point. We will see how bad it will be once this goes down.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:04 AM
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22. Ok this may go off now, I can hear choppers
ripleycal Patrick Lee
KCAL reporting that pink-shirted Occidental College students at #OccupyLA as peacekeepers @EagleRockPatch
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

JennyLynnLuvsU Jenny Lynn
LAPD officer R at City Hall park passing out fliers warning park closed ( #OccupyLA live at ustre.am/EXst)
1 minute ago
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:08 AM
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28. PunkBoyInSF is in L.A. streaming here:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:08 AM
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29. Photo
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:13 AM
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32. Fireworks, they just fired fireworks
no, not kidding.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:16 AM
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36. FOX-11 commenter asks if they'll throw them at police

"Now we know they have pytechnic devices--are they going to throw these into the officers?"

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:17 AM
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37. Ah yes, FOX, what else can we expect?
Rockets red glare...
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:19 AM
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39. I am getting live coverage via satelite dish on Fox 11 and saw the
"fireworks".

Faux showed some fights but also said that their were rumors of provocateers.

The LA ABC/NBC/CBS stations have regular programing.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:13 AM
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33. Anyone see the fireworks?
I wish sooo bad I could be there tonight.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:15 AM
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34. a bailbondsman!
that's funny, but sad... cool he got his cards and passed them out!
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:15 AM
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35. KTLA has a helo.
Reports police are all around a few blocks away. Police helicopter is using infrared to track crowd movements. LAPD motorcycle officers are trying to keep people out of the street.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:18 AM
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38. RT is there, as well as Al Jazeera
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 01:19 AM by nadinbrzezinski
now this is funny... not in a good way... And Oaksho is reporting the first MTA bus

False alarm on MTA bus transporting cops
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:22 AM
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41. this matters
AnthonyBuncio Anthony Buncio
LAPD restricted who can cover the #OccupyLA eviction. For UNRESTRICTED LIVE STREAM from citizen journalists go to thenation.com/blog/164832/oc…
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:27 AM
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42. Looks like Philly
Is being hit too. No coordination to see here...:sarcasm:
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:30 AM
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43. That would be crazy talk.
Seems even more "crazy" considering they are on two seperate time zones but happen to be scheduled for destruction at the same time.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:30 AM
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44. #occupyla hashtag is trending on twitter
I wonder how long they'll allow that?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:38 AM
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50. As soon as the night tech crew notices
BAAM
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:35 AM
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45. I am amazed at the amount of "new OP" in Latest since the police
decided to raid and tear down the OWS sites.

Just sayin, Looks a little coincidental.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #45
48. Ducks and all that, and I will leave it at that
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:35 AM
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46. Third and Final Warning to Leave Given...
LAPD Says no one is more able to lay down the law.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:38 AM
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49. They get one more declaration that this is an unlawful assembly.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:36 AM
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47. three intersections cordoned off...
Mind you this is also part of the tactics, try to get people off kilter.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:40 AM
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52. ah here is a number
jacobsoboroff Jacob Soboroff
RT @KPCCLive: So, @OccupyLA has roughly 1,000 at the encampment. Trying to get confirmation #OccupyLA
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:50 AM
Response to Reply #47
58. this is like a weird study
in sociology/civics class... "how protests/cop confrontations go down" or "know the enemy's tactics"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #58
61. To me it is flashbacks
and every time I actually cover a story like in the field, all that tactics training comes back, HARD.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:59 AM
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68. ..
glad you're on our side nadine! ;)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:42 AM
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53. Here they are advancing
tylerology tylerology
@OakFoSho Police advancing down Main St. #occupyla
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

(Yes I know this kid)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:43 AM
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54. Tell the truth, there is no democracy here
(translated from Spanish)
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:46 AM
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55. Commander Smith says it's a lawful assembly and they're fine tonight. Good.
Thank you Commander Smith.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #55
57. Where are you getting that?
This is what I'm getting for the KPCC (NPR twitter feed)

@KPCCLive 16 busses of cops arrived at #OccupyLA. Media told to leave. t.co
by ScottSwezey via twitter 10:47 PM

Commander Smith (per livestream): Have yet to declare an unlawful assembly, sidewalks are clear.
by Kim Bui 10:46 PM

http://www.scpr.org/news/2011/11/29/30064/occupy-la-eviction-live-blog/

Newscasters seem fairly confident this is going down tonight.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:54 AM
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63. The horses mouth
he just told that to Oaksho and a few other reporters.

NO warnings have been issued yet.

They will do this, after twelve.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #63
67. KTLA was slightly off...
...They do have to give formal warnings.

KTLA just had Commander Smith on and he said nothing of the sort i.e. that there will not be police action tonight. He couldn't comment on it. Just said that a tactical alert has more to do with a large crowd.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:56 AM
Response to Reply #57
66. Implausible that they would roll out 500+ stormtroopers to deliver "you're OK" msg
Probably at 3:00 AM Eastern "you're OK where you are" turns into "Run, You Hippie Scum!"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:47 AM
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56. No declarations have been made per CMDR Smith LAPD
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #56
62. On Ustream
Observer told girl busloads of riot cops arriving
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:54 AM
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65. Yeah we do... watching Oaksho right now
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:51 AM
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59. anyone's livestream have an echo?
i gotta turn it off... :(
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:52 AM
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60. Raid to happen after 12:00 at night, 00:00 hours
So Commander Smith did not technically lie
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #60
64. Too many people awake still.
Can't have the public view this in real time.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:00 AM
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69. There is a pic of 27 police arrest vans parked at Dodger Stadium on another site.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:02 AM
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70. +100
i, may have to just stay up to spite them :evilgrin:
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #60
76. I hope you are wrong, but you might be correct. I guess time will tell. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:02 AM
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71. The interviews are POWERFUL
And I swear I have heard this from people here at OccupySD
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:04 AM
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72. exactly
that's why this movement rocks...we are all holding the same things valuable..humanity, environment, etc...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #72
74. Photo of the youg hippie there for her
great grand kid



Damn hippie, get a bath and then go apply for a job!

So says Newt
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:06 AM
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75. WTF are you on about? There's no coherent message. ;-) nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:04 AM
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73. Damn young hippie, take a bath and get a job!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:09 AM
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77. Broadway and First police line
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:11 AM
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79. Nice trumpet in the background.
Land of the free! Home of the brave!
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:12 AM
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80. this is something amazing to watch
from a journalistic standpoint...
he is reporting on who has what weapons on the front lines, so that they can use that as a reference to bring charges against who shoots if people get hurt.heavy stuff...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:10 AM
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78. Oaksho has confirmed both rubber bullets
and Tear Gas on Broadway and First.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:12 AM
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81. may happen at midnight ?
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:14 AM
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83. They really do look like they mean business.
I'd like to nominate OakFoSho for the Medal of Freedom ;-)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:16 AM
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85. From having taken photos of cops
no, they don't like it.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:12 AM
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82. i have a bad feeling
that some occusomnia is in my future :hangover:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:14 AM
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84. I am debating more coffee
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:18 AM
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87. Occusomnia tonight
No debate here--I'm getting more coffee. And I took a nap today, just in case...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:20 AM
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89. Yup, but still trying to heal from whatever I caught
Damn it, been living almost at home. Right now got note program and taking notes. Including the photo of the young hippie that was talking to him... she is in her seventies.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:23 AM
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93. dammitt, i'm debating cigarettes and more beer!
i'm feelin my inner rebel!
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:16 AM
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86. loved the spacey hippie dude
the big thing is to look inside yourself for what you want the new world to look like...hmmm...very out there...but good..
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:20 AM
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88. I didn't realize they were camping nearly on top of LAPD headquarters. nt
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 02:21 AM by Electric Monk
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:24 AM
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94. Yep, as you've heard, directly across the street. "The anthill".
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:22 AM
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90. Lots of cops in Philly as well...

Watching both streams simultaneously.

http://www.livestream.com/occupyphiladelphia
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:25 AM
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95. I could not do both
really could not, but the little I saw did not look interesting,
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:33 AM
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99. Large crowds, especially considering this time of night back there...

saw unions represented as well.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:22 AM
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91. Cmdr. smith did NOT look happy n/t
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:23 AM
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92. "Totally sealed off. If you leave, you aren't getting back in." - OakFoSho nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:26 AM
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96. hmm
digitaldraco Draco
KCAL reports LAPD will be offering one more chance at "negotiating" a peaceful departure before they move in. #OccupyLA #OccupySD
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:29 AM
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97. So the eviction hasn't happened yet.
I just joined in. I do like OakFoSho's coverage.

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:39 AM
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103. When they came a couple of days ago, they first cordoned just after midnight
but didn't actually confront the camp at its edges until something like 4:30 or 5AM.

It's been done this way in other cities: They want to wait out the crowd and then move in. Could take hours. They know they're being recorded, although Villainaigosa probably doesn't give a whoopty shit about something like that.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:44 AM
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109. Thanks, FWWM. Due to wireless connection problems, I hadn't been able to watch.
Finally have those issues resolved & am playing catch-up.


:hi:
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:32 AM
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98. Nice camera he's using. Did anyone catch what kind?
Good zoom and steady at that range for handheld, and nightvision.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:34 AM
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100. An upper end sonycam with
a ustream pack. It is NOT a cheap rig... it also has satellite link, from what I understand.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:42 AM
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106. A 6 modem backpack uploading to 3 different cell networks? (I just heard)
Wow that IS quite a rig.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:43 AM
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108. It is, very much so
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:36 AM
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101. Checking in now
all these so called "evictions" are going to come back to haunt those in power - if they had just let it be there is a CHANCE people might have lost interest - now they have shown just why we must protest - to reclaim this country for the people, and not just a money making toy for the rich and powerful. thnx for the link.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:38 AM
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102. They screw with us, we multiply
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:40 AM
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105. For sure. The occupiers' peacefulness is hardly a call for tactical weapons.
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 02:41 AM by pacalo
But I doubt that in any case these occupiers would lose interest. Any time a movement can touch on the nerve of such a broad base of people is a golden opportunity for change.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:39 AM
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104. Ok Oaksho just got in contact with
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 02:41 AM by nadinbrzezinski
an LAPD tactical unit, I googled this up, 4ID and LAPD and all I got was Fourth Infantry Division. Somehow I doubt that is what he encountered.

Oh and the weapon looked like an MP-5

Yup, they are SWAT...
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:43 AM
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107. OccupyLA #OccupyLA Incoming LRAD 11:41 ~ oa
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:45 AM
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110. officers by police hq
&xsize=640&ysize=640
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:49 AM
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111. Thank you for the thread, Nadin. I suggest starting another at the turn of the hour
in 11 minutes.

Seems apropos.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:50 AM
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112. crowds running in Philly
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:50 AM
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113. OakFoSho just identified officers with riot control weapons
Camera close-ups on their names on their helmets, plus reading their names aloud.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:52 AM
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115. Notice though, the riot gear
that LAPD uses is not the full set... either they don't own it, or they do not feel they need it.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:12 AM
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123. They have it, but I think this reflects Chief Beck's 'softer' approach
He's trying to avoid the mistakes made in NYC, Oakland, etc.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:55 AM
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118. Anonymous are likely interested in this being a peaceful process
so hopefully these KKKops are aware of what was done to Tony Baloney and Sgt. Pepperspray Pike. Good for Oak! Cameras are indeed the new guns!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:51 AM
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114. So press cannot tweet or use phones
while this happens... what can I say?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:54 AM
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116. The NYTimes editorial speaking against brutality against the press didn't go far enough.
Why wasn't censorship by the police mentioned, also???
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:54 AM
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117. Meanwhile at Philly

DustinSlaughter Dustin M. Slaughter
Philly PD has given first warning to vacate. They have also told press to move to designated area nearby. Unacceptable. #OccupyPhilly #ows
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:57 AM
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120. Maybe we need to start Occupying! shopping malls -
The precedent for doing it seems clear -

http://www.copswiki.org/w/pub/Common/M1205/2011-11-28-COPS-Letter-to-CivicCenterPlazaBuildingOwner.pdf

To support this assertion, I point to Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robins, 447 U.S. 74 (1980), a U.S.
Supreme Court decision (attached) that requires privately owned malls and shopping centers to allow
peaceful political activity inside the mall.

In essence, the decision embraced the notion that today, these privately owned malls have replaced the public square, and therefore, it is appropriate to require the malls
to allow peaceful political activity, subject to time, place, and manner restrictions. Those restrictions were
added to account for the fact that the property owners had other interests, namely to encourage shoppers to
spend money in the mall and not be hassled by political activists. Thus, malls are allowed to restrict the
time, for example, by not allowing any such activity during the holiday season.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:00 AM
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121. Overheard on a LAPD scanner (apparently): "We're going in quietly." nt
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:03 AM
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122. reporter girls name on ustream is
"Freedom". Do not expect to see "Freedom" on Fox news anytime soon. :-)
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:15 AM
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124. She's covered OLA full-time for 60 days, now
She did a great job Sunday-Monday when the police cleared the street.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:15 AM
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125. oh no here we go
coming in from the opposite direction... dammitt lots of people yelling 'get out of there!'
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:17 AM
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126. First arrest going down live on KCAL-9 nt
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:18 AM
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127. wtf hazmat suits??? n/t
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 03:56 AM
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128. don't wanna get contaminated
By the "dirty hippies". It is an effort to make credible the "health and safety" excuse by beating unarmed peaceful citizenry senseless.
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:15 AM
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129. my first taste
...of occusomnia. :-)
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