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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 10:53 AM Original message |
Taking a lower-paying job to "follow Jesus Christ" does not justify paying less in child support |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Child support is based on income |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It matters if you are trying to dodge paying child support.. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I read the story |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. With disregard for his prior obligations. Besides, with free room and board, it isn't |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. You are making a very unjust assumption, IMO |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. "the trial court erred in concluding that plaintiff acted 'in good faith, without a disregard for.." |
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CarmanK (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. He gets 52,000 salary and FREE room and board! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. In which case, it is less than 1/3 of his income. He doesn't get to duck old obligations |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Seems almost as foolish as leaving a high paying job to |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Interesting parallel |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Hopefully he gets this overturned |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. It matters if you change your job to avoid support. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. If it's based on income, what would it matter? Dad gets paid less, his kids get less. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Free room and board bumps his true income way up though. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. And no benefits bumps it way down |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. "Way up"? I doubt that. I lived next door to a parsonage, it was a little |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. There's some variation for the economic conditions |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. If only he hadn't said this, had added in that he had factored in his obligations... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. So? He should keep a job he doesn't want SOLELY because of child support? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Please read this post as it gives a good explanation. Thank you. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. He didn't change jobs to avoid support |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. It's a family court presumption of some type |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Sorry, but you don't get a pass from the State when you 'get religion.' |
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rethymnon (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes it does, |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. The difference being |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'm shocked that a pastor makes $53k starting salary. |
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octothorpe (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
43. heh... It's $10/hr PLUS a bathroom break every 12 hours... It's not that bad. |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. he didn't just get hired, he started the church. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
5. You left out important part of the story....READ THE STORY BEFORE REPLYING please... |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Can only use 4 paragraphs, which is why I put in the link ;) But thanks for noting it! (nt) |
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James48 (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
7. pastor at $52K? Ha! |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. The Church of Republicon Family Values |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Oor precher makes lots more than that |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. They have a term for this. "Involuntary servitude". n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. No. It's called "ducking prior obligations" . Read the whole story in OP. nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. If you are legally prohibited from quitting or changing jobs, it's involuntary servitude. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. If you change to avoid prior obligations, or without taking those obligations into consideration, |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Actually, having kids in no way means that you have to earn any |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
12. WWJD? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
13. If he wants to switch jobs, they should allow him to pay less in support, period. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. Common problem in child support law |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. "People really do lose freedom by having children." that is it, in a nutshell. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. It used to be worse |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
38. So if you have a bunch of kids without having any prospects |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. I don't know, ask each state's legal system |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Thank you for the explanation. Sounds like what happened here. eom |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
56. Here's the thing |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
31. Something just doesn't seem right about the entire story |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Could be more than one kid |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Each state has a formula |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Different states have different laws regarding the percentage |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
41. Did Jesus tell him to stiff his kids? |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. +1 nt |
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exboyfil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. Then you have the case of Desmond Hatchett |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
44. How about taking a lower paying job just to spite your ex? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
45. He needs to take a second job then, so he can pay his child support to the full extent! |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-11 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
53. With free room and board |
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