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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:12 PM Original message |
A Gut-Check Moment for Mr. Obama |
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RUMMYisFROSTED
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Treason! |
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DeSwiss
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Wed Nov-30-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Exactly. |
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Huey P. Long
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Diminished expectations call this a 'gut-check'. Anybody got a microscope? -eom |
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DJ13
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. ....... |
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gkhouston
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Wed Nov-30-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. I didn't fall in love, but I did expect a Democrat who taught Constitutional law |
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MineralMan
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. Unrecced for never getting to the meat of the issue at all. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Snap! |
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GeorgeGist
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Thu Dec-01-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
92. OP rec'd twice ... |
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emcguffie
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Thu Dec-01-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
94. Thanks for reminding me to recommend it. N/t. |
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Arctic Dave
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. "half a loaf" |
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tabatha
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. He said he would veto it. |
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Deleted message |
WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. You have trouble clicking provided links? |
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MineralMan
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Obviously not. I read the entire article, which is why I posted |
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Deleted sub-thread |
Ignis
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Thu Dec-01-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
124. "but it doesn't serve to damn President Obama, so it's not included here" |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Jesus. |
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TheWraith
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I, for one, would never give a rag like Truthout the value of my traffic. nt |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Well, thanks for kicking the thread. |
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mmonk
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Wed Nov-30-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
66. LOL |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. My favorite reply |
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mmonk
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Wed Nov-30-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Deserves another kick. |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Thanks |
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WillyT
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Fri Dec-02-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
133. And Another Kick !!! |
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sabrina 1
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
77. Lol, and here's another kick! |
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Deleted message |
WillyT
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Wed Nov-30-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
73. Bwahahahahahaha !!! |
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Ignis
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Thu Dec-01-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
123. Sticking to the WSJ Opinions page, are you? |
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MineralMan
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Jesus! |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Thanks for kicking the thread. |
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Obama has said a lot of things |
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I agree! And this time... |
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frylock
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Wed Nov-30-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. word up |
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a2liberal
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Thu Dec-01-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
91. Exactly |
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sabrina 1
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
78. Obama has said a lot of things only to turn around and do |
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U4ikLefty
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Thu Dec-01-11 04:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
83. We heard this one before....public option anyone? |
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emcguffie
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Thu Dec-01-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
95. I think maybe you have control issues. |
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frylock
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. obama sez a lot of shit |
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Bandit
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Wed Nov-30-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
40. He said he would close Gitmo also...In fact he has said a lot of things |
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midnight
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Wed Nov-30-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. I hope he will veto it too, but I suppose the author addressed that via |
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markpkessinger
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Fri Dec-02-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
132. I think the author is waiting to see if the President fulfills that veto promise n/t |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. K&R! Gut Check Moment, Indeed. eom. |
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OhioChick
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. K&R n/t |
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hifiguy
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. Great piece, Will. |
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Hutzpa
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'm confused |
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wiggs
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Levin falling on his sword so that PObama can veto a highly visible bill |
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Blue_In_AK
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I'm sick of political games, |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Agree...if Levin would do that it would be a political stunt and not worth what |
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joshcryer
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Wed Nov-30-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. No way, that's how the Republicans play. Remember when we forced the Republicans... |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I guess I could look on it that if "Levin is pulling a Political Stunt," and it's good |
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joshcryer
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Wed Nov-30-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. Yep. |
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emcguffie
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Thu Dec-01-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
96. I have the same question. |
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BlueIris
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Wed Nov-30-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
24. To me, the gut check moment is whether or not he should continue in office. |
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dtexdem
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is one Obama had better veto. |
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AtomicKitten
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
28. Pres O warned the Senate he would veto the bill if it contained the indefinite detention provision. |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Will Pitt has that in his article. You needed to read the whole article at the link... |
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AtomicKitten
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I read it and wonder why that germaine tidbit was virtually buried in the piece. |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Building towards the conclusion. |
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AtomicKitten
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Wed Nov-30-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. With O's veto threat out there, how/why did this get past Senate Dems to begin with? |
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AtomicKitten
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Wed Nov-30-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. The Senate shot down an amendment to exclude American citizens 61-38. WTF?!! |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. I don't think Will Pitt "intentionally" deceived you with you not finding the quote.. |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. +1 |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Whatever...go over to the site and READ Pitt's Full article. Quote from Obama Veto is there... |
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AtomicKitten
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Thu Dec-01-11 03:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
82. I didn't imply he did; I questioned why the veto threat was given short shrift. |
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emcguffie
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #82 |
97. I think maybe the main point wasn't the veto threat. |
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WilliamPitt
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. It's an election year. |
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AtomicKitten
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. I wonder if you are aware |
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WilliamPitt
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. I am well aware of my reputation here. |
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trumad
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Thu Dec-01-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. Allow me to jump in here and say... |
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LaurenG
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Thu Dec-01-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #102 |
112. I'll mannered post. Something a coward would do, I'd say you just |
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AtomicKitten
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Thu Dec-01-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Correction: It proves what hypocrites people can be. |
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LaurenG
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Thu Dec-01-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Very cruel and un-necessary. nt |
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WilliamPitt
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Thu Dec-01-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. (headdesk) |
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RetroLounge
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Thu Dec-01-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. Wow, example of Doucheosity |
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WilliamPitt
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Thu Dec-01-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #114 |
126. "Site B"????? |
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myrna minx
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Thu Dec-01-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Perhaps she meant site B(ees)? |
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LaurenG
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Thu Dec-01-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #114 |
128. What are you talking about "swerve into subterfuge"and what is site b |
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Fri Dec-02-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #102 |
131. Wow! are you full of SHIT! |
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AtomicKitten
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I didn't say that it was. I said ... |
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emcguffie
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Thu Dec-01-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #99 |
129. Maybe I posted in the wrong spot. |
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Juneboarder
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Wed Nov-30-11 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. Mr. Pitt |
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frylock
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Wed Nov-30-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
36. knr |
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AntiFascist
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Wed Nov-30-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
38. Well, at least he can get plenty of campaign funding from the corporations n/t |
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sad sally
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Wed Nov-30-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
39. Excellent piece with a burning question as to why hasn't the |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Truly...the questions mount and surely the Voters need to Know? That's Democratic Way... |
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Thu Dec-01-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #39 |
74. I agree with most of what you wrote, Sally, but under the Uniform Code of Military Justice |
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Wed Nov-30-11 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. How long until he "compromises" with the fascists and settles for a "not as bad" bill? |
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bvar22
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Wed Nov-30-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
45. Here is a video you will enjoy: |
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malthaussen
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Wed Nov-30-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. It's a great video |
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City Lights
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Wed Nov-30-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. K&R. |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Right? |
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Wed Nov-30-11 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. k&r... |
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Autumn
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Wed Nov-30-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
51. Excellent article Mr. Pitt. As always. |
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WilliamPitt
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Wed Nov-30-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. "We shall see" |
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Wed Nov-30-11 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
53. Have you ever seen the movie _The Seduction of Joe Tynan_, with Alan Alda |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. To a lesser degree "The Candidate" is still a good watch. But, Obama must have seen same movies |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. There's also another political film... |
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
62. Obama |
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KoKo
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. The best I can say and "hopeful" about Obama is that by just being himself |
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Wed Nov-30-11 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
64. K&R, thanks very much. n/t |
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mmonk
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Wed Nov-30-11 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
67. Recommended. |
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Wed Nov-30-11 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
71. very well done. i'm bookmarking this too... |
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Wed Nov-30-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
72. Gut-check moment indeed. But, if past is prologue, well . . . |
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
75. Democrats in the House who voted for the bill are named at this website |
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blackspade
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
76. Good read. |
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
79. K&R Excellent article, hope Obama does the right thing |
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Thu Dec-01-11 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
80. Obama, stand UP! and |
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Norrin Radd
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Thu Dec-01-11 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
81. kr |
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n2doc
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Thu Dec-01-11 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
84. You undoubtedly remember the phrase defining insanity |
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Enthusiast
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Thu Dec-01-11 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
85. President Obama has placed a lot of focus on national security. |
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stlsaxman
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Thu Dec-01-11 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
86. Well done, Mr. Pitt. |
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MissDeeds
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Thu Dec-01-11 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
87. K&R |
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chill_wind
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Thu Dec-01-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
88. K & R. |
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Samantha
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Thu Dec-01-11 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
89. I liked this thread, WilliamPitt |
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Thu Dec-01-11 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
90. If this bill passes, |
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Thu Dec-01-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
93. K&R |
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
100. knr |
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loudsue
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
101. There definitely needs to be hearings on WHY these men put that language in the bill |
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roman7
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
103. you seem to have answered your your own questions |
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Vinnie From Indy
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
104. LOL! |
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roman7
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. willfull ignorance is thinking there is no difference between bush & president obama |
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Vinnie From Indy
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Thu Dec-01-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. It seems to me that the differences are merely in style and presentation |
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truedelphi
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
105. The puppet likes the puppetty strings - |
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roman7
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Thu Dec-01-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
107. oops two times |
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Thu Dec-01-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
109. Obama's record stands -- |
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Shining Jack
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Thu Dec-01-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Kick! Sorry to be late so I could rec. |
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Thu Dec-01-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
117. Lack of thesis statement... hurts... my... poor.. little... sensibilities.... |
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Major Hogwash
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Thu Dec-01-11 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
118. Some of us knew this would be the price we'd pay for electing the first Black President of the U.S. |
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WilliamPitt
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Thu Dec-01-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Your screen name suits your post. |
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Major Hogwash
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Thu Dec-01-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #119 |
130. The tv screens will soon be filled with scenes of our troops finally returning home from the war. |
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myrna minx
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Thu Dec-01-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
120. Thank you for this article. Some of the responses here are astonishing. |
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WilliamPitt
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Thu Dec-01-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Check out |
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Ignis
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Thu Dec-01-11 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
125. Missed the R, but here's your K. |
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Fri Dec-02-11 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
134. ... |
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