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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:49 PM
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Buzzers are going off in my head right now.
So, the senate passed a bill today that allows the military to hold "terror suspects" indefinitely on US Soil.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/senate-votes-to-let-military-detain-americans-indefinitely_n_1119473.html

Yesterday as I was lying on the sofa, home sick with a flare up, I watched this thing on History Channel 2 called The Gestapo. Hitler's Parliament passed nearly the same bill just before they started gathering people off the streets, intellectuals, social democrats, homosexuals, artists, Jews, essentially anyone not a fascist and throwing them in bunkers. In Propaganda videos they looked like "reeducation" camps, but in reality, they were the precursors to the concentration camps like Dachau and Auschwitz.

So, I guess good luck to us, because it sounds like those crazy conspiracy theory nutjobs were weren't so whacked, huh?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:51 PM
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1. Even scarier, Google 'FEMA detention camps'
Then put 2+2 together.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:04 PM
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7. If you really want to blow your mind put in the trifecta
and google chemtrails then put 2+2+2 together! FEMA Camps/Chemtrails/Detention

There just isn't enough aluminum to keep them out of my head anymore.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:06 PM
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25. Chemtrails is not a terribly plausible theory.
The FEMA camps aren't something I'm certain of yet, but there seems to be cause for investigation.

The illegal detention of Americans is already an historical fact.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:13 AM
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28. If the
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 04:13 AM by truedelphi
Chemtrails are not a viable theory,then what explains the very real airplanes zooming around the skies of Lake County, California?

The plane will come over the Clearlake hills ridge, maybe something like 4400 feet in altitude. The the plane shoots up at a 55% degree angle, reaches a height of at least 20 thousand feet, and then comes barrelling down, so it is over Konocti highest peak, again maybe around 4400 ft. All this in eight or nine miles of airspace.

How do you explain this happening? What do you tell the researchers who have collected rainwater samples and soil samples for 25 years, and see aluminum recorded at rates 2000% higher than the norms of two decades ago.

Lake County California has no airports capable of handling planes as big as these jets. And the county on normal days has planes that are in the 20k to 30k altitude - traveling from LA or Sacramento to Seattle. Not doing the type of acrobatics that are being exhibited by these planes. Those acrobatics would get a military pilot or a commercial pilot suspended even the pilot performed them once, unless in an emergency situation.







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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-02-11 02:48 PM
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38. Are you making that up, or do you have substantiation? n/t
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 12:29 PM
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30. yes
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:52 PM
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2. "They Thought They Were Free"
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.

"You will understand me when I say that my Middle High German was my life. It was all I cared about. I was a scholar, a specialist. Then, suddenly, I was plunged into all the new activity, as the university was drawn into the new situation; meetings, conferences, interviews, ceremonies, and, above all, papers to be filled out, reports, bibliographies, lists, questionnaires. And on top of that were the demands in the community, the things in which one had to, was ‘expected to’ participate that had not been there or had not been important before. It was all rigmarole, of course, but it consumed all one’s energies, coming on top of the work one really wanted to do. You can see how easy it was, then, not to think about fundamental things. One had no time."
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:28 PM
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31. Wish I could rec this.
Thanks for posting.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:37 PM
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35. kr
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:53 PM
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3. Ya just don't know who the enemy is anymore in this country! n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:53 PM
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4. Is this link to this same thing as it gives a different take if it does. If not, sorry.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:01 PM
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6. I perused, but didn't see it. I didn't know it was already posted.
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WildNovember Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:19 AM
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29. That's the same article. ????
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:58 PM
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5. Part of the bill allows the government to send the people to
foreign countries .........
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:04 PM
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8. What part of the bill is that? n/t
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:49 PM
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19. Sec. 1033
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 05:51 PM by Angry Dragon
You can download the bill if you like (pdf)

www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867pcs/pdf/BILLS-112s1867pcs.pdf
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:05 PM
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9. I want to see you put the bills side by side
and point out how they are "nearly the same" please.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:16 PM
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15. I am sorry.
I don't read German.
Also, I was on drugs, but they sound a LOT a like. :evilgrin:
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:19 PM
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16. LOL
just add a bunch of zie's on the end of the English words and they should match up no?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:10 PM
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10. And never underestimate the power of propaganda in shaping, enabling and magnifying
the hate mentality; which led to that catastrophe.

Thanks for the thread, YellowRubberDuckie.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:57 PM
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20. Good point.
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 05:59 PM by woo me with science
Slashing the budget, pensions, medical coverage, safety nets, and vital programs as the world economy is about to crash, while demonizing the people who need help most...

They really don't have to herd people into camps, as there are many more politically palatable ways of getting rid of them just fine.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:57 PM
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21. Hate and Fear and Greed
The great manipulators of mankind. I bet you can track every horrific event in human history back to one of those three evils.
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nobodyspecial Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:12 PM
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11. Perhaps you better go lie back down.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:15 PM
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14. I was just thinking the same thing.
LOL
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:39 PM
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36. Damn, thanks for the laugh.
:toast: Hope you feel better.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:12 PM
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12. The old "boiling a frog" scenario?
Wherein the frog (us) is placed in a pot of water and the temp is gradually increased so that we hardly notice the impending demise.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:14 PM
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13. Yep. No one cares about increments. Until.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:19 PM
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17. Yep
They got us right where they want us. Hell, they are scared of us, and they should be. If we ever really decide to Occupy the whole country and take back our rights, they will be in trouble.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:45 PM
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18. This is unconstitutional.
Even our current supreme court would have to find it so.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:53 PM
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22. I don't know.
Their corporate masters are SALIVATING!
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:01 PM
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23. Thought I read on another thread where Obama said he would veto this nonsense.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:16 PM
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26. He says a lot of things.
:shrug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 08:02 PM
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24. K & R.
Now take an aspirin.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 11:36 PM
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27. I hope I'm not burned at some stake
for being uppity.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:06 PM
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32. For 7 years DC has been slowly undoing the Constitution/Bill Of Rights to fight "terra:"
Because of 9/11 (HA!). Or because they want to. Or because they can. After all, whatcha gonna do? Who ya gonna call? We have no voice in DC. NONE.
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Smilo Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:19 PM
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33. What is sad is
the wanton apathy of so many - to them ignorance is bliss. There are a lot of "blissed" people in America and the rest of the world.
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Smilo Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:27 PM
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34. What is sad is that so many
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 03:28 PM by Smilo
sorry double post not sure how to delete.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:34 PM
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37. Those buzzers have been ringing for quite a while.....
...however, most people are just now hearing them.

- The jury is still out as to whether it's too late to stop them.......

K&R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY">
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