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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-12 05:17 PM
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Senator Jon Kyl compares embassy statement to blaming a rape victim
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-12 03:12 AM
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1. 404 error. "The web page has vanished."
Damage control?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-12 09:12 PM
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2. another link
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/sen-jon-kyl-us-embassy-response-like-blaming-rape-victim/


Sep 12, 2012 11:13pm
Sen. Jon Kyl: US Embassy Response Like Blaming Rape Victim

Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., suggested today that President Obama and the State Department’s response to the embassy attacks in Egypt and Libya was akin to a court asking a rape victim for an apology.

Speaking to reporters on Capitol Hill, the 70-year old, retiring senator said:

“It’s like the judge telling the woman who got raped, ‘You asked for it because of the way you dressed.’ OK? That’s the same thing. ‘Well, America, you should be the ones to apologize, you should have known this would happen, you should have done – what I don’t know – but it’s your fault that it happened.’ You know, for a member of our State Department to put out a statement like that, it had to be cleared by somebody. They don’t just do that in the spur of the moment.”

Kyl was referring to criticism of an anti-Islam film, produced in the U.S., by American diplomats in Egypt. The blowback from the movie’s release has been cited as a reason for the attack on the U.S. embassy in Egypt.


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they sure talk about it enough by referencing the subject as an analogy as much as possible...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-12 04:32 AM
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4. Thanks, DD, for supplying a working link.
Yes, they do seem obsessed with it, one way or another.

Kyl's aide really had to stretch to try to make sense of this garbled thinking, though. And, as usual, they are doing the Goebbels Big Lie strategy, trying to help out their boy Willard by repeating that the Egypitan embassy apologized for being attacked, when, in fact, the embassy issued the statement before any attack. It had recognized a potential for attack and was trying to calm any volatility before it happened.

Willard inappropriately inserted himself into a dangerous international situation before he had the facts, then doubled down on his mistake rather than admit it. And, as usual, Willard misrepresented. Nothing in the embassy statement was an apology. They said only that they disapprove of bigotry against any religion. Gee, I wonder why a Mormon would not agree with that?


I am guessing at Willard's motivation for this fiasco, of course, but: Despite the unprofessional Republican convention, the Eastwood moment being the most glaring example, but certainly not only error, Obama had gone into the Democratic National Convention a point down. Margin of error, yes, but still...Obama had come out of the Democratic convention pulling ahead of Romney--and outside the margin of error.

Also, one of the errors many had cited despite the distraction of Eastwood's embarrassement, was Romney's failure to mention the Afghanistan War during the convention. So, here we have another crisis in that general area of the world and Romney rushes to judgment and shows himself to have no grasp of the facts and very poor judgment, barging into a volatile situation and interefering with the efforts of the President and the Secretary of State at damage control in order to save lives.

It was a really shameful moment. So, as a "remedy" Romney not only doubled down on his mistakes before the President addressed the nation--and the world-- (but after Hillary did), His campaign circulated talking points to Republicans and they are repeating the same deception and mistakes. Meanwhile, the muslim world, over 1.5 billion people strong, is furious and our embassies are still at risk.

If this helps Romney win this election, I give up. I just give up. But, I think this is his McCain moment.
































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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-12 04:12 AM
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3. Sorry. One of the rare times I did not excerpt and the link didn't work!
Good thing I never tried to gamble. I have no luck.


Thank heavens for DD, though.

BTW, if something like this happens again, and you are interested enough, you can copy the headline and paste it in your browser, then search.

The internet is so full of plagiarizers and copycats, you will probably find something relevant quickly. Again, though, only if you wish.

It's very interesting to know AP pulled the article, though. I had thought AP was becoming a teensy bit less biased. Guess I was wrong.

Thanks to someone who had posted a link to Media Matters, I learned that Ron Fournier had held an important position at AP, Meanwhile, he was emailing Rove messages that said, in essence, "Thank Jesus we beat the evil Democrats. Let me know if I can help."

Fournier has moved on to head some other publication, but AP is still very influential. More and more newspapers--such that have not gone out of business--are using it as their news source.
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