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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-12 11:28 AM
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If it's fair to use Bill Ayers on Obama then it's fair to use Marc Leder's association with Romney.
Remember when they tried to smear Obama with an association to Bill Ayers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_presidential_election_controversy

<>During the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, a controversy arose regarding Barack Obama's contact with Bill Ayers, a Distinguished Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and a former leader of the Weather Underground, a radical left organization in the 1970s.

--- Marc Leder, host of recent Romney fund raiser held a sex party.
This WILL get traction!

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/09/18/host-at-romneys-secret-tape-reportedly-held-sex-parties-at-hamptons-beach-house/

Was Romney Backer Reportedly Also Behind Risqué Hamptons Parties?

<>If news of Mitt Romney’s 47% theory of taxpayer delinquency isn’t being talked about enough, there’s still another story behind it that may well turn out to get more mileage than the most recent of the former Massachusetts governor’s gallery of gaffes.

<>Romney’s comments, were given at a fundraiser held at the Boca Raton, Fla., estate of hedge fund manager Marc Leder. Up front, there’s nothing salacious about having an event to raise money at a rich guy’s home. But Leder has become notorious for throwing raucous parties, according to the New York Post, which described one decadent end-of-summer soirée as “the talk of the Hamptons” last summer:

<> At the Bridgehampton home that Leder rented for a whopping $500,000 a month, guests cavorted nude in a pool and performed sex acts, while scantily clad Russian women danced on platforms. Dancers at the party also twirled flaming torches to booming beats.


Hmmmm juicy :rofl:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/marc-leder-mitt-romney_n_1893117.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/09/18/report-fundraiser-host-had-sex-bash.html
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-12 02:43 AM
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1. Bill Ayers protested the Vietnam war, along with Dr. Spock and many nuns and other clergy.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-12 02:44 AM by No Elephants
Yes, he did put a bomb in a Pentagon toilet in the middle of the night, but he sent a warning first to clear the building.

He was prepared to go to jail for that act of vandalism, but the government messed up the case.

Something I learned only in 2008: he raised the kids of the Weathermen couple who died in their townhouse in Greenwhich Village.

He met Obama because he has supported what he assumes to be liberals all his life.

People can associate me with Bill Ayers any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I wouldn't throw him under any bus.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-12 04:50 AM
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2. I have always wondered if Ayers
wasn't deep cover--an FBI agent back in the day. Believe me, all the "subversive" groups had been infiltrated by then.

The most sophisticated members of the Weather Underground and the SDS were FBI agents. Just like today's infiltration on the Occupy movement. I think they encouraged illegal acts then, just as they do today.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-12 05:19 AM
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3. Excellent point. Unless I am mistaken. Ayers was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-12 05:23 AM by No Elephants
I don't know why he would have risked the condemnation of being a criminal if it were not for beliefs he held deeply.

And I don't know if a government agent would have raised the kid of other Weathermen after they got convicted of armed robbery in the early 1980s, have become an early education prof at U. of Illinois at Chicago.

Wouldn't hia wife, also a WU member and then a professor, have been a govt. agent as well, then? She was a member of the Lawyers' Guild before going into the Underground.

That was considered a leftie group. That means nothing, though, as it is exactly the kind of organization govt would have infiltrated then. But, if her law degree were phony, I think they would have detected that when discussing law with her?

His wiki says he was a co-founder of the group and that sounds like govt.

IMO, it is likelier that a govt agent urged him and them on, the way that they do with Muslims whose mosques they join these days, but who knows? I may think that because that is what I am supposed to think?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-12 09:19 PM
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6. Lots of Revolutionaries and Leftists came from elite, wealthy backgrounds
Engels financed Marx.
Having money does not preclude you from being a leftist or have revolutionary aspirations or ideals
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-12 01:40 AM
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7. ? My assumption was that he and his wife did act out of deep leftist convictions
and not because they were in deep cover for the government.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-12 05:21 AM
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4. Too late to edit, but Ayers and his wife became guardians of
Chesa Boudin, the son of former members of the Weather Underground, Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, after the couple were convicted of murder for their roles in a 1981 armored car robbery.

That is from the wiki of Mrs. Ayers, aka Bernadette Dohrn. I don't know how old the kid was at the time.

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-12 10:08 AM
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5. I did not know this.......nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-12 01:41 AM
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8. It doesn't fit the narrative.
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