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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-12 12:26 AM
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The Aftermath ?
Now, I believe President Obama is going to win the popular vote and also, the electoral vote by a closer margin, and I do believe he is going to win the election.

However, being the hard-core realist that I am, I do understand that Mr Romney could find a way to win the election. Simply because, they have done it before. It is nothing new to them. Elections are to be won, by hook or crook. They rationalize their illegal activities by assuring each other that they only do it because the Democrats do it. But, for some odd reason, it seems that every time we hear of graft or fraud, it is on the Republican side?

So, whichever way the election turns out, there will be hell to pay. Neither side will rush to accept the legitimacy of the other. The press is in a pickle. They want to promote the Party that will prevent chaos and violence but they have no idea which Party that is at the moment?

The aftermath of this election will not be pretty. Although the Democratic Party will have members that ask to reconcile their differences. Because they are good moderate, rational Democrats. But only time will quell the bitterness of a defeat of this magnitude of hatred and distrust.

It will take a strong leader to keep this country from boiling over, in my opinion. The hatred, the name-calling, the lies, have taken their toll, on both Parties. They have lost respect, decency, and the desire to communicate and find compromise with each other.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-12 02:13 AM
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1. They win.
In any sort of a conflict or difference of opinion they will win. They win because they control the entire media. The tiny bit of "liberal" content on MSNBC can end in a flash. They already stole two presidential elections. We are on the cusp of an outright fascist state.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-12 04:48 AM
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2. Agree with most of your points, but not all.
I disagree that we hear only about graft or fraud from the Republican side. That may be true of DU because many DUers are understandably happier to post a story about Republicans than they are about Democrats.

In my state alone, the last several Democratic Speakers of the House went to jail for corruption. I met one of them while on line to vote for Kerry four years ago. Could not have been nicer or more pleasant. He's sitting in federal prison now.

And, Bradblog posted at DU 2, before DU 3 opened, very emphatically that stealing of elections was not only a Republican thang.

And the mind is funny. It registers more emphatically and remembers longer those things we already agree with, the ones that reinforce our pre-existing beliefs.

Is it exactly, or even roughly, equal? I don't know. Someone would have to keep track of all the news stories around the country and keep score.

I also disagree that the press will be in a pickle. Most of them will do whatever the five or so companies that own most media outlets in this country tell them to do, if they want to keep working in that field.

Finally, I think the popular vote is the one that will be closer than the electoral vote. That's pretty much how it has been all along.

But those are details. What you said about legitimacy, etc. and everything else, I totally agree with.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-12 08:20 PM
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3. What's sad is that the elections have become a managed process
The parties can predict scientifically who wins over a year in advance and the models are right every time. The media just doesn't report it. That's because America has become a nation of unintellectual dweebs that are unfailingly predictable. :evilfrown:

Also, the reason Republicans are always accusing voter fraud is to cover up their own activities. It's called projection by accusation.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-12 11:17 PM
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4. Thanks. I've observed the technique, but never had a term with which to label it.
I've just been calling it "accusing others of what you do."

Sadly, we don't seem to find a way to fight that kind of thing, except by doing it ourselves.
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