On second thought, 50,000,000 French people CAN be wrong.

[No Elephants]

Nov 5, 3:28 AM EST

'I do?' Opposition dogs French gay marriage plans

By THOMAS ADAMSON
Associated Press

PARIS (AP) -- A plan to legalize same-sex marriage and allow gay couples to adopt was a liberal cornerstone of French President Francois Hollande's election manifesto earlier this year. It looked like a shoo-in, supported by a majority of the French, and an easy way to break with his conservative predecessor.

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Now, as the Socialist government prepares to unveil its draft "marriage for everyone" law Wednesday, polls show wavering support for the idea and for the president amid increasingly vocal opposition in this traditionally Catholic country.


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France would be the 12th country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage if the bill passes. France has allowed civil unions since 1999, and while they were initially seen as for gay or lesbian couples, they have proved hugely popular among heterosexuals, too.

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One prominent Paris official warned that recognizing gay marriage could lead to legalizing polygamy, pedophilia and incest. Francois Lebel's comments drew particular attention, and condemnation, because he oversees the neighborhood that includes the presidential palace and he officiated at former President Nicolas Sarkozy's marriage to ex-supermodel Carla Bruni.

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The proposed law is of huge symbolic importance for Hollande, whose personal popularity is in decline and who says legalizing gay marriage and adoption is one of the things he wants to accomplish in his first year in office. But it is escalating into a divisive issue even within his Socialist party's ranks.

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Everyone, it seems, has an opinion. Even the politically neutral state child benefits agency has weighed in, criticizing the plan to scrap entries for "father" and "mother" in official records, replaced by "parent 1" and "parent 2".

Much more at http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_FRANCE_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-11-05-03-28-46

All the same poo poo that goes on here around same gender marriage is going on there. Somehow, I think the same groups that are fighting it here infested France.

Relationships between consenting adults simply should not be politicized. I am starting to think we should all just sign contracts with each other and those who wish to have a religious ceremony can go ahead and get one.

There are just no good songs about civil unions and contractual relationships, though.

[Enthusiast]

1. I don't get it.

Electing s socialist government is a mistake because there is opposition to gay marriage from the rest of the nation?

"One prominent Paris official warned that recognizing gay marriage could lead to legalizing polygamy, pedophilia and incest."

We could say, "One Washington official warned that recognizing gay marriage could lead to legalizing polygamy, pedophilia and incest. His name was Jim DeMint."

[No Elephants]

2. Lead to pedophilia and incest? Is he saying they don't already exist?

I say we ban voting because it could lead to election fraud.

Oh, wait. It just occurred to me that we could have one law that allows voting and another that bans voting fraud.

Wait. Let's ban handwashing because it could lead to obsessive compulsive hand washing.

[Leopolds Ghost]

3. I actually kinda regret voting either way on our local initiative simply because

I think the government has no business legislating marriage, period.

I guess that puts me in the Jesse Ventura camp on this issue.