Veterans' Day. Anyone near San Fransisco or Marin County?

[No Elephants]

Sunday, November 11, 1:30-4:30 p.m. San Francisco
Medea Benjamin, Cindy Sheehan, and David Swanson
On the traditional Armistice Day, the War and Law League (WALL), http://warandlaw.org, presents a forum on the theme, "U.S. Wars -- Are They Lawful?" Admission is free. The forum, highlighting WALL's biennial general meeting, is endorsed by the S.F. American Friends Service Committee and East Bay Peace Action. Main Public Library, Koret Auditorium, 100 Larkin Street at Grove Street, San Francisco, CA, near Civic Center BART/Muni station.



November 11, 7:00 p.m. Marin County
Medea Benjamin and David Swanson
"Stopping War: The Next One? Forever? -- An Armistice Day Instead of Veterans Day Event"
Sponsor: Marin Peace & Justice Coalition. Co-sponsors: Social Justice Center of Marin and Community Media Center of Marin.
Olney Hall, College of Marin, 835 College Ave, Kentfield, CA
Admission $10 (No one turned away for lack of funds).


About the speakers at these events:



David Swanson will sign books including "War Is A Lie," "When the World Outlawed War," "The Military Industrial Complex at 50," and his new children's book "Tube World." Swanson blogs at http://davidswanson.org and http://warisacrime.org and works as Campaign Coordinator for the online activist organization http://rootsaction.org. He hosts Talk Nation Radio.



Medea Benjamin is Co-Founder of Code Pink and Global Exchange and author of "Drone Warfare: Killing by Remote Control."



Cindy Sheehan is a gold star mother, peace activist, host of Cindy Sheehan's Soapbox, and author of "Revolution: A Love Story."


http://davidswanson.org/issues

[Divine Discontent]

1. was a few years ago. woulda been a good time for sure... n/t

[Enthusiast]

2. I applaud these people-- Medea Benjamin, Cindy Sheehan, David Swanson and the rest

Theirs is a discussion we refuse to have in the rest of the nation. All weekend long on TV it's been, "We thank these veterans for protecting our freedom."

Unfortunately recent military action has never been about the threat to freedom. That was a "bill of goods" sold to us to justify a gift to the military industrial complex. From Vietnam forward none of these "actions" has been necessary to protect our freedom(s). This national illusion is propped up at the expense of the rest of us.

We need a department of peace.

[No Elephants]

3. The Department of Defense used to be called the War Department.

And Veteran's Day was Armistice Day, in honor of the end of the war to end all wars.

I don't think peace is the direction the changes have been going in.

It's odd. In some things, this nation has marched leftward, even if it was costly. Abolition of slavery, universal suffrage, child labor laws, minimum wage laws, etc.

And in some things, it has marched rightward, like war.

And, in some things, we regressed, like dismantling much of the Great Society and the New Deal.