Speaking of the fiscal cliff (and who isn't?),

[No Elephants]

why is it that everyone uses the semi-scary phrase "going over the fiscal cliff" together with "cutting entitlements?"

Why not "going over the fiscal cliff" and "cutting safety nets?"

Inquiring minds already know.

[Enthusiast]

1. We can see from the carefully crafted public narrative

exactly where their hearts are. My question for die hard President Obama supporters is, "Why did the President appoint two known anti-New Deal zealots to head up the Simpson-Bowles deficit commission in the first place?"

http://www.nationofchange.org/how-kill-social-security-smile-1354009631 And check out the comments section.

http://www.nationofchange.org/will-tim-geithner-lead-us-over-or-around-fiscal-cliff-1354033007#comment-268416

[No Elephants]

2. Not only Bowles and Simpson, but also folks like Baucus and Ryan.

Good link, thanks. I have seen posters who identify themselves as Democrats praise means testing as a solution. (Solution to what, by the way? A system that has always supported itself?)