Obama lauds Clinton during unprecedented joint T.V. interview.

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Jan 27, 7:32 PM EST

Obama lauds Clinton as she prepares to leave

By PHILIP ELLIOTT
Associated Press




WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama lauded Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton as one of his closest advisers and said their shared vision for America's role in the world persuaded his one-time rival - and potential successor - to be his top diplomat while he dealt with the shattered economy at home.

During a joint interview that aired Sunday, Obama and Clinton chuckled as they described their partnership and stoked speculation that Obama may prefer Clinton to succeed him in the White House after the 2016 elections. Clinton is leaving Obama's Cabinet soon, and speculation about the former first lady and senator has only grown more intense after a heated appearance last week on Capitol Hill.

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Obama, who suggested the joint interview as Clinton prepared her exit from the State Department, lavished praise on his rival for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination. He called her a friend and an extraordinary talent, and praised "her discipline, her stamina, her thoughtfulness, her ability to project."

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I wonder how Biden feels? Chuck Toad says his sources say that Biden does want to run in 2016, even though, if he wins, he will be 75 when he is sworn in for the first time, older than Reagan. (Hillary would not be far behind at age 70 in January of 2017.)

For all the reasons that I chose Obama over Biden and Hillary in 2007, I think either one of them being the Democratic standard bearer candidate in 2016 would be a bad idea for the Democratic Party. Both of them have done well in their slots in the Obama administration since then, though, so that changes the dynamic. Still, I am sticking with my 2007 judgment.

[Enthusiast]

1. Biden or Clinton,

things would remain the same. We would maintain the same undying loyalty to corporations and the out of control MIC at the expense of the nation's working class and poor.

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2. If one of them is the nominee, I think the Republican would win.

It was never the primary voters who defeated Hillary. It was the PTB in the Dmocratic Party, who thought she had too much baggage to win the general election. (Pretty much why I had decided she less electible than Obama.)

I cannot prove this bit of it, but I think there was collusion with the media on that. I always felt that about Howard Dean and the yelp, too. (Since then, it has been proven that it was played on TV more loudly than the rest of the video.) Hence, even shile 30 points behind Hillary, they were treating Obama like the frontrunner, the rock star of politics, etc.

I distinctly remember Katie Couric. To set up the video of Dean yelping before it was aired, she made a face, as though she was smelled something awful. I had never seen her make that face before and I pretty much Today every morning. She also implied Dean was less than sane and sober when he yelped. And then, having already told viewers what they were supposed to see in the video, they ran the video. And for days, the video of Dean was played over and over until I thought every channel had it on a loop.


I was for Kerry then. Also, that was before I would have assumed any collusion between media and any Democrat or group of Democrats. (LOL, look how much I changed between 2004 and 2012.) Still, the media treatment of the tape was so obviously out of the ordinary that it seemed odd to me anyway. But, though the DLC had given lip service to an early endorsement of DLC co-founder Lieberman, it was clear that he was not going to get many primary votes. Kerry had gone from being the liberal anti-Vietnam war vet to being a founding member of the New Democrat coalition of the Senate. And the DLC endorsed him.

I don't know whether the PTB in the Party would undermine Hillary in 1016, though, given her high ratings as Secretary of State. Inasmuch as she is pure DLC, It would depend solely on whether they think she could win the election, which other Democrats were running in the primary and which Republicans were running. It's also possible that a Republican victory in 2016 is considered inevitable, in which case they might well back her in a primary. But someone knows all this and so much more much better than I. And she's married to him.

Chuck Toad did say that Biden wants to run, but will not do so because he (Biden) knows he cannot beat Hillary in a primary. (So, it seems media is again declaring her the inevitable primary winner.)

Anyway, I think a Republican victory in 2016 is likely, but especially if they run Hillary. I think they should run a woman, but not her. She had too much baggage in 2008 and she still has all of it and now more.

[Enthusiast]

3. We shall see.

One thing for sure. "They" will not allow a independent mind into the Whitehouse except for a visit.

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4. Luckily, the only independent mind in D.C. anymore seems to be Sanders.

And he has no desire to run for the WH.

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5. That did not come out right. I meant luckily for whoever is in charge of keeping

independent thinkers out of the White House.

As for me, I wish every Senator were like Sanders.

ETA: Scratch "Senator." I wish every politician, local, state and federal, were like Sanders.