Get a grip.

[No Elephants]

As part of the Hillary frenzy, people are saying she is the most
Pundits, please. Get a grip. True giants have held that position.


Before we were even the U.S. Ben Franklin did a lot of traveling abroad on our behalf (and not in his own version of Air Force One, with a huge staff and bodyguards either. Hell, he didn't have a typewriter. Not even a fountain pen.

In his spare time, He did thing like write and publish Poor Richard's almanac, rn a newspaper urging rebellion against the Crown and disover electricity--or whatever he did with that kite ). His wiki is drop dead jaw-dropping. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

Some of our Secretaries of State after the nation was officially founded were John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Henry Clay, James Monroe, Martin Van Buren, Daniel Webster, etc.

John Jay, our first Secretary of State, was also the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. So, while Washington had to pretty much invent the Presidency and the Country, Jay had to pretty much invent the Supreme Court, as well as inventing the Office of Secretary of State. John Marschall took some petty bureaucratic snafu and used it to establish judicial review of the actions of the other two branche. Thomas Jefferson, having no predecent anywhere in history, wrote the Virginia Constitution, on which the Constittion of the United States was based. And wrote the Declaration of Independence.

And so on

Yes, Hillary has been a hard working Secretary of State. But most (adjective) ever? Not by a long shot.

[Enthusiast]

1. I agree.

And Ben Franklin's I.Q. must have been off the charts.

[formercia]

2. Apparently, so was his sex drive

he was notorious, even in France. The old Goat..lol

[Enthusiast]

4. Old goat, lol..........nt

[No Elephants]

5. Maybe, but he acknowledged and raised his illegitimate child and

also common law married his woman (wiki is not clear if she was the baby momma or not.

Her husband ran off with her dowry and never returned. No one knew what became of him or whether he was alive or dead. So, Ben and his babe could not ever marry formally without violating bigamy laws. Those sailing ships were not very fast or very reliable, so she probably forgave him for whatever he did when he finally touched land in Europe.

[No Elephants]

3. Oy, the first line of the OP was supposed to say that people

have been saying that Hillary is the most (insert laudatory adjective) Secretary of State in U.S. history.

Instead of using parens, I must have used brackets and blown the mind of the DU software enough that it deleted everything.