Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Let's see what's happened during this manufactured budget crisis

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-14-13 10:37 PM
Original message
Let's see what's happened during this manufactured budget crisis
Edited on Mon Oct-14-13 10:42 PM by No Elephants
1/ Over 60% of Americans want to throw out all incumbents.

Americans tend to hate Congress, but like their own Senators and Representative, but even that is changing.

Should Americans dump all incumbents--and I don't think they will--that could put the House in the hands of Democrats and the more powerful Senate in the hands of Republicans.

Given the 60 vote rule in the Senate, though, what would really change?

The danger I see here is that incumbents in the Senate tend to get re-elected, even more so than incumbents in the House. So the Senate might stay Republican, while re-districting might flip the House back to Republicans in short order.




2/ Over 60% of Americans say the country needs a third party. As I've written, America already has at least 33 national parties, of which 5 are considered major parties. Three of those five are rightist parties--Republican, Libertarian and Constitution. Only two can be considered leftist in the least--Democratic and Green. And if more parties are birthed as a result of this, you know they ones funded will be rightist.


3/ Over 60% of Americans think the federal government sucks. That's a win for Republicans, who have been trying to peddle that idea for many decades.


4/ Last night on CNN a Republican in one of the few remaining purple districts in the country, Denham, began talking about forgetting about Democratic solutions and Republican solutions and going for No Labels solutions. Problem is, that No Labels was founded by Bush Republicans and is peopled by them and the right of the DLC clan. It lumps liberals with Tea Partiers, calling both extremists. Since I discovered New Labels a few years back, I've been saying that I consider it more dangerous to Democrats than Third Way and DLC.

It is very convenient for Republicans because it is essentially a Republican organization that condemns Tea Baggers, who tend to primary Republican incumbents. For a liberal Democrat? Not so much.

5/ Anericans are more ready for cuts to entitlements, a budget containing which is already in the House, awaiting passage. Maybe Americans will be relieved and grateful when it passes, instead of outraged, as they would surely have been five years ago.


BTW, what else has gone on in the last two weeks? Progress on Keystone? The TPP? Something we haven't even heard about yet?

So, who really won this crisis? Dunno. Don't care, because I know who lost. America and Americans, maybe even the 99% in other nations.
Refresh | +1 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-15-13 06:57 AM
Response to Original message
1. I cannot disgree.
The crisis wasn't manufactured for the manufacturers to lose. See?

They want to cut "entitlements" so they will. Yes, the nation lost. Such is governance in this age of unrestricted NSA surveillance and Citizens United. We're being crushed under to foot of the Fascist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-15-13 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Seems as though I am always marching to a different drummer.
Everyone else seems to think Democrats are the big winners in the shutdown debacle.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-16-13 06:07 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. It's pure kabuki.
Just wait and see. Well, we might not be able to afford cable TV after they are done.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Dec 25th 2024, 03:19 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC