The new right-wing meme

[oh08dem]

I'm hearing this a lot lately: "We've cut spending before and there were no riots.", or "So-and-so cut spending before and there were no riots".

Well now, considering the economy is rarely ever the same year to year it's hard to compare cuts made in the 90's to the cuts we're planning on doing. Since the job market clearly sucks, and wages haven't grown in proportion with production, people are needing help more than ever to make ends meet.

I often hear people wonder why government doesn't work, especially teapublicans, that's a pretty simple question to answer as well: conservatives are merely middle men in shifting money from the poor and middle class to the rich. Yeah they'll "fight" to give ya a tax cut, just to shut you up long enough not to notice the roads, bridges, and dams crumbling around you.

People are mad, and this is bipartisan. And a lot of them depend (whether they know it, or not) on the federal government to stay afloat, so please yell it from the rooftops Jim Jordan. Yell it till you loose your voice. Let the masses know your taking ownership of cutting off musch needed benefits and jobs in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

May God have mercy on your heartless cold soul, because if it does come to riots they most assuredly wont.

[zbdent]

1. In the 1990s, they cut spending, yes ...

after the tax increase, signed into law by Clinton, which nearly every Republican denounced as "sparking a Depression which will make the 1930s look like a walk in the park" (paraphrased).

And you had a growing economy ...

Mainly, the "riots" which ensued were all the companies competing for employees ... along came a Republican-controlled House, Senate, and White House ... and a recession ... something not seen during the Clinton years ...

[obxhead]

2. Not growing, but exploding economy.

Clinton got lucky with the explosion of the .com industry, but all things considered the economy was awesome. You could walk off the job at lunch and have a new job before your afternoon snack.

History has shown time and again that if you help the elite at the detriment of the poor you fail. If you help the poor at the slight detriment of the elite you succeed. It has been proven many times by many societies. Maybe that's why we don't teach history, the truth may be found in it.

[socialist_n_TN]

3. The reason government doesn't work is simple...........

We've had MOST of 30 years of people IN government who don't BELIEVE in government running things. There's no good reason to be involved in something you don't believe in. The two best and most logical reasons are personal aggandizement and to shut it down, or both, i.e. get what you can out of it and THEN shut it down. THAT'S the reason government doesn't work.

[BobbyBoring]

4. Well said

And that seems lost on the masses. Anyone who hates their job is going to suck at it so WHY elect people you know are going to suck?

[RandomThoughts]

5. The idea that leadership roles should not be fun depends on perspective.

If you think fun is perks or status, or things for self, they should not be fun. If you think fun is that once in so many years little victory in so much hard battles, and maybe getting something better done, then it can be fun.

It should be a sucky job for those that are motivated for reasons that are not best for society. Although that should be true in private sector also if they effect society or societal rules.



And the difficulties of much of politics, I think it is not that fun for them. So I don't think I am saying something that is not already true.


If you are a soldier in war and enjoy it, or a politician trying to get something done, and having fun all the time, and I doubt many are, then you probably aren't getting much done, that is the south of adversity, it has to be a bit difficult at times.

[socialist_n_TN]

6. BTW, try this on some of your RW debating buddies...........

if you have any that is. :)

There are two questions that they can NEVER answer to anybody's satisfaction, including their own. How can you expect people who don't believe in government be expected to govern or at least govern well? And, why is everybody EXCEPT the rich being asked to sacrifice in the name of austerity? They can't answer EITHER of these questions.