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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:32 AM Original message |
Explain employee stock options to an eight year old |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. the option's worth 10 bucks. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You're saying the option to to buy/sell becomes open contingent on a gain in the stock price? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Well, you could exercise the option and buy the shares anytime BUT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. and then you get to pay cap gains tax on the gains at a lesser rate than regular income. |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. I had some once. |
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Very_Boring_Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. So whats to stop you from spending your entire lifes savings buying up 10,000 shares of 5$ stock |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. You will generally only be given X number of shares |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. Here's my simple attempt .. |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. In options parlance, it is "In the Money" and Out the Money"... |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Not where I work, at least not in terms of a simple short hand ... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
4. A cautionary tale about how I got royally screwed over on stock options and almost had to pay AMT |
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Very_Boring_Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I know the IRS has a reputation as being pretty cold blooded but |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. AMT was supposed to help keep rich people from getting too rich. |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yes, I've seen the same thing happen |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
11. See . . . when you werk fer someone, you get called an im-PLOY-yee . . . . |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
12. Here is everything you need to know: |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. It's logical, but reasonable only to the extent that you have immediate control of the money |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Some details are missing.... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Details have faded from my memory |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
15. Thanks, all, for the responses |
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freethought (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Here's what I know |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It depends... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. The amount of the excerise is regular income. Any gain past that is a capital gain. |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:12 PM Original message |
A bit more complicated than that, quite a bit actually |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
27. I was thinking more like NSO. |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Just to underline qualified/nonqualified ISOs |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. I've been through something like this in thepast ... |
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freethought (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
16. There's good advice here |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. One clarification. Exercised NSO stock options are always treated as regular ciome |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Thank you, freethought, for your replies |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. I have the option to purchase nike employee stock |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. You can buy the stock at a set price (the strike price of the option). |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. I know what stock options are, but I would rather determine the economic |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
29. Consider this. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-23-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. Here's how: "Hope your company doesn't tank like Bethlehem Steel, kiddo!" |
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