America is a nation of sheep

[DainBramaged]

We keep buying the bullshit our elected officials shovel out and they keep stabbing us in the back in the name of bipartisanship.


If the appointments of Immelt and Daley haven't sent chills up your spine, than nothing this Administration does will.


The Corporations have won, we are toast.

[Common Sense Party]

1. I suggest that be our 2012 campaign slogan: "America Is a Nation of Sheep."

Vote for us!

[gauguin57]

2. Quit insulting sheep.

I'll trust a sheep over a Tea Partier any day of the week.

[KittyWampus]

3. Speak for yourself.

[Codeine]

4. Except you of course, right?

God I hate it when "progressives" make pronouncements like that then wonder why we have trouble gaining support.

[SidDithers]

5. +1...nt

Sid

[DainBramaged]

13. Support for what? If those two appointments don't signify abandonment by OUR party

nothing they do will. Our party stopped being Progressive a long long time ago. Holding onto to the tattered remains of the flag of hope is at best futile.


Nice to see you too again.......

[texshelters]

42. Yep, however

it stopped being my party a long time ago as well.

There certainly some progressives in the Democratic party, and the facists, fundementalists and radicals in the Republican party.

So, if I had to choose,

Where is the Democratic wing of the Democratic party today?

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[Common Sense Party]

37. +1,000,000

Tone deaf.

[mmonk]

6. A nation of sheep divided by party.

Us vs them instead of us vs the monied elite.

[bvar22]

36. And THAT is the heart of the problem.

As long as TPTB can keep the national debate confined to the very narrow frame of Democrat vs Republican,
the Status Quo will be maintained.

When the Working Class & The Poor realize we have more in common with each other than we have in common with the Elite Leadership of BOTH political parties, we can demand REAL change.
The Blue Print for this "CHANGE" is in Latin America.
They have shown us how.

K&R

[Odin2005]

48. Amen my fellow Minnesotan!

[BOG PERSON]

7. HOW DARE YOU SIR

HOW DARE YOU

[DainBramaged]

15. Easy, I'm not afraid of the sheepherders here....

[sufrommich]

22. Good for you, because it takes great courage to post

anonymously on internet discussion forums.

[Codeine]

24. He's speaking truth to power, dude.

He's like a revolutionary and shit. Fight the Wooly Sheep Power!

[Scruffy1]

31. The problem with speaking truth to power is.......

Power doesn't listen and we all already know the truth.

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[walldude]

46. Actually he's pulling his head out of the sand.

But go ahead and make fun of him. You are making his point.

[DainBramaged]

29. Just like the rest of you........

Baaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[sufrommich]

32. Only if by the "rest of us" you mean posters who proudly

proclaim that they are not afraid of the "sheepherders" on the internet as if that takes a massive amount of courage. We get it, you're a fearless rebel.

[madinmaryland]

55. *snort*

:spray:

[cali]

8. I trust my own elected officials. Others? Not so much.

The President? Sadly, no. Still, what do want the populace to do? There's something that really rubs me the wrong way about smug little posters on DU, making pronouncements like this.

[Fumesucker]

25. You inadvertently stated the problem in a nutshell...

You trust your own elected officials..

That's what pretty much everyone does, they trust their elected officials but not yours or anyone else's.

[cali]

30. uh, no. Progressives and liberals across the board pretty much trust my elected officials

Bernie Sanders, Pat Leahy and Peter Welch in D.C. And though most liberals and progressives aren't familiar with Shap Smith, Lucy Lariche, Peter Shumlin and others on the state level, if they were, they'd support them too.

[Fumesucker]

41. And conservative officials are trusted by conservative voters..

You know, the majority in those places that have conservative elected officials.

[Odin2005]

50. "I trust my own elected officials." That's the whole problem.

Everyone hates corrupt assholes except their OWN corrupt assholes, and so nothing changes.

[cali]

52. Pat Leahy, Bernie Sanders, Peter Welch. You'd have to be a fool not

to be happy with those guys as your elected reps in D.C. And with Shap Smith as Speaker of the Vermont House, my own wonderful rep Lucy Leriche as Asst Speaker, Peter Shumlin as governor, and a host of progressive dems and progressives in the state house, yeah, I'm pretty happy with my elected reps.

[Odin2005]

53. They are the exceptions that prove the rule.

My rep is Colin Peterson, a top Blue Dog and the King of Ag Pork. He stays in office via Big Ag pork and kow-towing to social conservatives.

[LibDemAlways]

9. I think there are basically two kinds of sheep in the US.

One is the FAUX "News" junkie who would follow Hannity and Beck off a cliff.

The other is the apolitical individual who does the bidding of the corporations by sitting like a zombie in front of the tv and filling his house with a bunch of useless crap.

There are of course millions who fall into neither category, but those two are definitely a significant part of the American landscape.

[PBS Poll-435]

10. Don't you spend quite a bit of time here shilling for a corporation, yourself?

:beepbeep:

[dionysus]

11. oh shit

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

[madinmaryland]

56. OMFG!!!

Someone actually pointed that out!

:wow:

[whathehell]

12. I'm with KittyWampus...Speak for yourself..

Unless you think DUers and other progressives in this country are "sheep".

[DainBramaged]

14. You and Kitty can begin your own thread entitled "we are not sheep" and watch it fill with comments

from sheep.....

[Codeine]

16. so anyone that disagrees with you is a sheep?

Someone has a remarkably high opinion of themselves.

[DainBramaged]

18. Nope, but you think the appointments are just okey dokie?

Think what you want, I said what needed to be said.

[Codeine]

20. My response has nothing whatsoever to do with the (bad) appointments.

It's the smugly superior attitude you were rocking that I found distasteful.

[whathehell]

17. Oh...So you do think those here on DU are "sheep"?

Or is that just your lame response to anyone who disagrees with you on ANYTHING?

[DainBramaged]

19. (sigh) whatever.....

[madinmaryland]

57. Yeap. You lost the arguement. nt

[DainBramaged]

58. We all lost, but people are worried about being called sheep

and not focusing on what happened. And I am not wondering why...............


meh

[whathehell]

23. We don't have to prove a negative, bro..

It's more your responsiblity to prove the positive.

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[dionysus]

27. i'm sorry this thread isn't working out the way you hoped.

[PBS Poll-435]

28. Sounds like somebody is wearing wool underwear

:eyes:












:P

[ReadTomPaine]

26. We're certainly getting fleeced.

The pendulum will swing back when there's nothing left to cut or steal. Maybe next time around this cycle we'll do better and retain the value of what our society produces, rather than let others come in, pillage us and leave untouched.

This time, however.. not so much.

[texshelters]

33. I demand you take that BAAAAck!

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[Scruffy1]

34. It's a systemic disease-not curable by voting yet.

We go to the polls every couple of years full of hope and send them off with fanfare but our elected officials quickly realize that the dark powers can remove them at will. Not many legislators can survive a full blown attack by the big money corporate interest. So for the most part they have to straddle the fence and be careful not to rile the big corporate dragon. They can rationalize this by knowing the opponents are worse. This is nothing new.

Personally I blame a lot of America's woes on television which as a medium must rely on sound bite and shallow analysis. If you get too complex you lose your audience. However, in their day newspapers were very effective tools for the corporate power. When I was young I was friends with a former one term Congressman named John Barnard.
He was a miner from the Iron Range of Minnesota who was elected as a progressive by labor. When the neutrality vote to keep from shipping any arms to Republican Spain came up he made the mistake of asking for a vote rather than unanimous consent. The papers and radio managed to turn the vote against him and he was gone. He was also blackballed from the mines. Alan Grayson is the latest example of the same thing.

You can pillory Obama all you want, but the fact is if you don't bow to the corporate masters you will be gone. So I think we need to realize where the power lies. Sure my Congressman can always get 80% of the vote in my district as a true progressive, but the next district North re-elected Bachmann. We need to find a way to diminish corporate power outside of the polling booth. A good start would be to ignore the media in my opinion. Read and learn. You will find what you really believe without any help from the media providing false choices.

[jeff47]

38. Thank you for demonstrating the perfect way to never get anything done.

When confronted by a powerful enemy, it's vitally important to fracture into as many pieces as possible, so as to be more easily crushed. This is best accomplished by being as insulting as possible to any potential allies who are not sufficiently 'pure'.

</snark>

If you care enough to whine about it, then you should be spending your time doing something about it. Complaining that you have no followers will not get you any.

[MilesColtrane]

39. "we are toast."

Mmm...

I like toast.

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[hulka38]

43. I completely agree

and I will no longer support the establishment in any way.

[Godhumor]

44. Yeah, can't say the appointments send a chill up my spine

But thanks for the hyperbole.

[walldude]

45. I agree. We can't win.

Obama is not going to save us and neither is any other Democrat.

I keep reminding myself of the PNAC document. The one that said they needed an event of "Pearl Harbor" proportions to make their move.

Well we need the same thing. We are not going to reverse the tide with this one step forward two steps back mentality that is running the Democratic party these days.

We need an event of Pearl Harbor proportions, except in the reverse. We need something huge, a giant shift in thinking for the whole country, maybe for the whole world.

Personally I'm hoping for an alien visitation or invasion.

In the meantime I have decided that the most active I will be in politics is the occasional visit to political sites. I think doing something creative with the time and money I spent all these years on politics is a much more intelligent use of my time. I started playing the guitar and writing music again. Even if no one ever hears what I do I'm at least contributing something good to the universe.

[Odin2005]

47. I am ashamed to have been one of those sheep on the Obama bandwagon.

[DainBramaged]

51. And the flag is tattered and no longer represents the people who supported him...

I will support him as long as he supports me.....but I'm not a millionaire or corporate master, so I guess I'm shit out of luck.

[Horse with no Name]

49. Edward R. Murrow said it best

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." — Edward R. Murrow

[RegieRocker]

54. Sheep don't use guns but people do.

You're against guns. So....