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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:11 PM Original message |
"States with the Smartest Kids" |
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canoeist52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. What a surprise. Poverty affects educational performance. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. that raises a causality question. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. Well being creates good education ... well being of families, as well -- |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Vermont's median household income for 2009 was just over #$51,500 |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. Number One: Massa-FUCKIN-chusetts!! |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. +1 |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Oh yeah, Exam Question #1: Explain Scott Brown. Show your work. |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Bitter? |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. It Was His Unashamed Male Nudity |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. They've been #1 for quite some time now. I've attended a few seminars there. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. +1, n/t |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. I wonder how important abstinence teaching is in Mass. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'd like to see a linear regression of the results. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I suspect that might be a factor, |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. District of Columbia... #51 |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. I first found out about the educational disparity in D.C. in 2004. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
60. So apparently 3-4 years of Michelle Rhee didn't help? |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. West Dakota? |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't know about you... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. There are too many problems with the NAEP test to list here |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. My son is in a special day class... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Yes he probably does take the state test, but that's not what THIS test is |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Thanks for letting me know... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No problem. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. that is *not* the experience at my school. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. The accommodations were mandated and could not be changed |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. No exp with ELL on NAEP - however, |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Something to remember when comparing my state's scores with your state's |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. at a quick glance.. |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. State test & MAP are NOT the same as this one listed |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. See my reply above.... n/t |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Thank U. Only 1 out of 7 kids actually take the test & these aren't |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. A couple years ago Bush gave a big speech to praise the most recent NAEP scores |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Doesn't his brother own the company that Distributes this test |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Does he have an interest in this too? |
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barbiegeek (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I know his brother owns a test design company & got the contract |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Not likely... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Does NAEP write its own test? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. In the past, I believe so. Is there documentation that a private enterprise |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Why? Most tests are written by publishers. What's the big deal? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. The test does not measure students, or schools performance. It measures states. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You are right. It is a meaningless test being used to draw conclusions |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Perhaps that was true in past years... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. these aren't the states with the "smartest" kids, but states where kids |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Thank you for pointing out --it is not the student's ability but |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. good ponts....households which value education may be a better |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. And only kids who speak English and have no disabilities |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
15. It is interesting that overseas military bases are in the |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. At one time, those were great jobs |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
19. My girls ALWAYS scored in the |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
21. First red state (and its redness is dubious) is Ohio at #10. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. We're number 5!!! We're number 5!!! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. the top 3 states are all in New England. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
26. We're number 41! We're number 41! |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. Yeah, California is number 41. Sucks, doesn't it? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
29. I'm beginning to think tests are a bunch of bs. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I'm more concerned about the pressure on our kids |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. The question is how much pressure will they be under when their Chinese counterparts are |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. In Shanghai? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. China is the most successful anti poverty program in history. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. One of my dearest friends lives in China |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. I bet when their daughter comes back she will be leagues ahead of her American counterparts. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-24-11 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
41. Seven is not too bad. |
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delightfulstar (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
64. I'm not surprised that AZ is #40, however... |
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