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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:42 AM Original message |
Okay, I have to be honest...this is what I heard in Obama's SOTU |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. I heard him say no more tax breaks for big oil. nt |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I heard "oil subsidies will now go to produce nuclear waste that lasts 30,000 years" |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. Wake me when THAT is a reality. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Thank you for summing it up. That's exactly what I heard... |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. So |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. How about an actual JOBS program? |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
53. bra-fucking-vo |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. No. A "better ecomony" for Wall Street and related financial whores-- |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. You missed Social Security cuts? |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Where did he mention that? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Where O'Donnell, the NY Times Editorial Board |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
57. Must be speaking in code, right? |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. NO cuts per se but he wants a "bipartisan" solution to SS and mentioned |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Political speak |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
65. He said he wanted "bipartisan" cooperation to strengthen Social Security |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. You know, Manny, I am reading the NY Times editorial on the speech and there is no mention |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. It's code, apparently. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. For Social Security, "Cost Curve" = "Benefits Cuts" |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. LOL You think no one who works for SSA gets a paycheck? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Overhead less than 1% of all Social Security spending |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. The less than 1% of spending is administrative (i.e. payroll, etc) expenses from the 2 trust funds |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Do you have a link for your higher-than-1% assertion? |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Which is administrative expenses. Buildings, etc. is covered in the general federal ledgers. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. So we agree that he called for spending cuts. So answer this, please: |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Not to put too fine a point on this, but "spending" is NOT same as "benefits". Not by a long shot. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. That's Medicare. Different than Social Security, which is the topic at hand. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. The Social Security Administration is responsible for determining Medicare eligibility |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. Obama has proven to be quite an ardent corpratist... |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. You know what I heard? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. was this the Paul Ryan rebuttal you are referring to? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Barack Hoover Obama - here's a great article on the parallels |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. "Like Hoover, Obama has been unable to make his actions live up to his words" |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
38. And in all of what you heard the baggers are still not |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. We must not have heard the same speech |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. When do you think he might take on the big boys so the little ones don't keep getting screwed? |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. I didn't hear that in his speech which is what this thread is about |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. huh?? didn't hear what?? small business (which you brought up) or |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Don't for into the "small business" trap |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Maybe, but still without small businesses the US is dead |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. "...without small businesses the US is dead." |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. nonsense |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
40. +1000 |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. This conflation of actual small family business with smaller |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
42. Corning Chairman and CEO Wendell Weeks was among Obama's *honored guests*, sat withMichelle |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. You hear well. |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
17. I know our troops are precious but there seemed to be too much |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. +1 for telling it like it is. That speech was a complete capitulation to the GOP and the agenda of |
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Still a Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
26. Then you didn't retain very well the first time |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
28. Improved listening skills |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Blah blah blah |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
46. No, I actually listened to it |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
39. He said more than that. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
41. The speech was great. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Really? No, the problem is the OP DIDN'T hear what he wanted to hear. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Your just asking too much/sarcasm |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. You heard what you wanted to hear: that Obama doesn't share your agenda. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
44. hardly any talk about foreign policy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. People around here? Does that include everyone in the national flash polls? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
54. Didn't watch it but I figured as much-Just more corporatist blather with a sprinkle of hope & change |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Here Earth Mom.... |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
58. n/m |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
62. Don't forget to INNOVATE! |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
63. He was talking to his desired base - Corporations |
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