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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:01 PM Original message |
New York Considers E-Cigarette Ban |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ugh... |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Vape on. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Idiots. Criminalizing harm reduction is absurd. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Totally agreed. This is about control and money. And education. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's just foolish! Lots of people use e-cigs to stop smoking. |
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name not needed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. That's the problem. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Ig=h for god sake! You can't win with hese people! nt |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. Think of the children. |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. That's probably the most pernicious way they're going after e-cigs. |
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True_Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
68. Blueberry is my favorite |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. More like...think of their (read: politicans) children. |
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madville (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. Just trying to protect their tax revenues on real cigarettes |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. Blah! Who can trust anyone anymore? Big Pharma? |
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Newest Reality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. This is trivial and rediculous ... |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. Dictators |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Exactly. This is the sort of authoritarian shit that gives Dems and government a bad name. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. The tea party does exactly the same thing. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. E-Cigarettes Actually helped me kick the habit altogether! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Me too. 6 months for me. After, 40 years of smoking. |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. That's great |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. I started the E-cig the day after Thanksgiving |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Does that also include the E-Cigarette? |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
57. Congratulations! I'm using the nicorette gum, myself (eom) |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. Should not be banned. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. Puritanical dislike of the way they LOOK. And little more than that. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
16. Why is it that politicians, especially Democrats, love banning items? |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Because they think that the state should be able to tell you what you can or cannot consume. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. "Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. Nanny state authoritarians are just as harmful as the usual Reich wing variety |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
20. Nanny-Statists SUCK. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
21. Been vaping for a while |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
23. Ridiculous nanny state crap that will fail. People will buy them anyway, and they should. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
26. Idiotic. (the ban) |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
27. As a life-long anti-smoker, this strikes me as plain stupid. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
31. there are still studies that need to be done - but so far the research points to the e-cigs |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #31 |
64. Oh for fucks sake |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Yes, someone blowing smoke or vapor in your face is very intrusive. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
33. I'm not clear on how these things work |
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TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. From what I'm told, it is all water vapor |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Hopefully this will answer your question. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Thanks, I appreciate that |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. They contain a liquid nicotine solution. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. But it is a nicotine delivery system |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. They're not marketed towards non-smokers. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Neither are cigarettes, theoretically |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. It's about harm reduction. Think birth control. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Good example |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. You got it exactly. nt |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. There comes a point where "What about the children?" needs to stop. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Agreed, but if nicotine is a drug |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Tobacco products and gum are regulated differently |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. Do you really think a kid is going to buy a $100 e-cig starter kit than a $5 pack of regular cigs? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. OK, I had no idea how much they cost |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. There are a variety of prices, but all are more than the cost of a pack of cigs. |
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True_Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:03 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. The kits are expensive |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. They *may* contain nicotine. You can also fill them with 0% nicotine juice. nt |
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Digit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #36 |
79. I use an e-cig and use the drip method |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Nicotine |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. If the juices are non-addictive |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #39 |
65. Propylene Glycol and/or Vegetable Glycerine are the main ingredients of all e-cig juice. |
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Ratty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
37. More info on E-cigarettes please? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Here's what I use. |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Some beginner info on e-cig models: |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #44 |
71. I have eGos and others like the eGo. Riva and VGO and they're fabulous. As a former |
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Ratty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
73. Youtube! |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. You're welcome. |
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Digit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
80. Yep, I did a ton of reading to come to this conclusion |
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Michigan-Arizona (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Where are you located? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #37 |
72. Please read this post if mine. I think it will help. |
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Ratty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Outstanding thread |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Thanks Ratty and of course I wish you the best of luck! :) |
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coti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. I remembered seeing your post when I began researching them. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
40. Banners gonna ban, haters gonna hate - me, will stick with YOUR body, your choice |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. yeesh n/t |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. Genius |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. I was able to quit a 30+year 3 pack a day smoking habit with e-cigs. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
66. On the bright side, FDA Loses Second Court Battle over E-Cigarettes |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
69. In NY. 5 months yesterday smoke-free after 43 yrs, 3 packs a day. Ecigs did it for me. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
76. I can see a ban on white ones, but not an overall ban |
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kudzu22 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-29-11 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
81. What is it with New Yorkers? |
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