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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:47 PM Original message |
Social Security to Run Deficits for Foreseeable Future, CBO Says |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. In Other Words, Sir, It Spends Down Its Assets, And The Report Understates Its Income |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Thank you. The original BW report is a bit of a hit & run piece. -eom |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. I am skeptical of the CBO, and actually agree there could be a problem there. |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. Time to raise the upper level cut-off on the wealthy who are not |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. You'd also have to change the formula |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. there is no "problem" except that the ptb want to kill the program. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Thank you! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. yep, & i just saw an article today talking about how that fica holiday has made deficits so much |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. Before the same old tired solutions come torrenting in...... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. Hey! Did the CBO ever score Single Payer National Healthcare? |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. No and we all know the reason why. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Yes, actually they did, and Kucinich/Conyers purposefully didn't release the score. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. We can safely assume |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. "The calculations exclude interest payments earned on the program’s trust fund." |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Except those interest payments are on bonds sold to the general fund to collateralize t-bills |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. But it isn't and we can just issue more debt. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. SS bonds are a debt under another debt |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That is all a bunch of mumbo jumbo |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. bullshit. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Every piece of the propaganda machine |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. And even if this is true then raise the caps. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. So after collecting the interest payments how much of a surplus will it run over the next 10 years? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Fine, though we're the one making those interest payments |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. as we do with all other government debts. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Right... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. It is not a shitload of money each year. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. And coming up with the money for the useless wars has been disastrous |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No it hasn't. Cutting taxes was stupid. Deliberately stupid. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Being "alarmist" is the only way we'll ever get taxes back up |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. So your alternative is? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. God no. Raise taxes. |
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BlueCheese (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. I looked this up... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. way less than the stupid irresponsible tax cuts |
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divine_truine (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. OMFG! RAISE PAYROLL TAXES A MEASLY 1% & RAISE RETIREMENT BY 1 YEAR... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
12. I know how to fix that.......Tax Cuts.... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
13. To have a deficit, you must have borrowing. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. But how does it spend its assets? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. What the federal government does to honor it's debts is not Social Security's problem. n/t |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It's ultimately the problem of all of us |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Not really. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. The folks who have 'all the money' |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. bullshit |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. bullshit. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. No, the U.S. Government to run extra deficits because they already spent Trust Fund money. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
19. So why would we cut the payroll tax by 2% ? n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. To put more money in workers pockets in an attempt to stimulate the economy |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. bullshit |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. I'll second your bullshit. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-28-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. An average of $695 for each worker to spend is no small chunk of change |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. SS is the largest holder of US Government Debt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. and before any tax cuts to the rich are given. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
50. So for YEARS the CBO sent out reports of a crisis during the GWB |
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